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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">With regard to ‘</span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">a single individual to both GAC & ccNSO</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">’,
for in-person ICANN public meetings, the ccNSO meetings conflict with GAC meetings just as do the GNSO meetings.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 12, 2013 5:40 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'John Berard'; 'Maria Farrell'<br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'David Cake'; 'John Berard'; 'Council GNSO'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Thanks John,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Two questions for you and the Council:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Could such a position (liaison) be served by a single individual to both GAC & ccNSO?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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</span></span></span><![endif]><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The GNSO groups seem to be generally organising to place representatives / liaisons into the CCWG and other internet Governance initiatives.<br>
The GNSO Council has agreed (in BA) to James Bladel and Jennifer Wolfe being our “liaisons” to the Multi-stakeholder Innovation Panel initiative.<br>
Are there any other such initiatives that the Council should be actively monitoring and contributing to via a “liaison” of sorts?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> John Berard
<a href="mailto:[mailto:johnberard@aol.com]">[mailto:johnberard@aol.com]</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2013 17:03<br>
<b>To:</b> Maria Farrell<br>
<b>Cc:</b> David Cake; John Berard; Council GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] ccNSO Council meeting report<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">The idea to fund a ccNSO liaison from among the GNSO Councillors leaving their seat has been floated but little discussed. Perhaps we ought to put it on the weekend agenda for Singapore<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Berard<br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On Dec 11, 2013, at 8:33 AM, Maria Farrell <<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">Hi John,<br>
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Many thanks for this summary and indeed for getting up at 0400 to be able to provide it to us.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">I agree with your suggestion, and David's support, for a funded liaison person who can attend ccNSO and- David's suggestion - GAC meetings that run at the same time as ours. It could be a
useful first step to figuring out how to implement the ATRT2 recommendation that we somehow get the GAC more active in GNSO PDPs.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">I wonder how we would go about discussing that in more detail in the GNSO and, if appropriate, getting the idea into the works?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang="EN-GB">That said, I personally think you're doing a terrific job keeping us informed about cc-world and it is really useful to get these updates from you, with your day to day knowledge of GNSO Council
issues, e.g. the cross community working group. You are in danger of making yourself indispensable!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">Maria<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB">On 11 December 2013 02:05, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au" target="_blank">dave@difference.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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On 11 Dec 2013, at 7:38 am, <a href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com">john@crediblecontext.com</a> wrote:<br>
> 4. As the GNSO Council liaison to the ccNSO Council, I have already suggested, because we meet at the same times during the three international meetings, that someone just off the Council be asked to fill the role. This brings up a question of funding.
I think the position should be funded and a specific set of responsibilities attached. I am just making this up as I go along.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB"> Regardless, it seems a valuable suggestion. We have the same issue with the GAC - the major SOs and ACs are all more or less so busy that they consume almost all the time available at an ICANN meeting, making
it pretty much impossible to effectively monitor one if you are an active participant in another. Liaisons are seeming a more valuable idea with each meeting, and it seem a practical necessity that they are not full serving members of the origin group in order
to have the time to fully monitor the group they are outreaching to. And of course funding is important, as the ability to attend physical meetings is essential for the role.<br>
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Cheers<br>
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<span class="hoenzb"> David</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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