<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div></div><div><br><div><div>On Feb 21, 2014, at 4:33 PM, Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">hi again — this is a slightly newer new version. i decided to break up the paragraph a little bit, that’s all. here’s the way i did it<div><br></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;">The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load and correctly identifies this as a major concern. We note that simply increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal. Ultimately what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and effective volunteer participants in PDP working groups. <o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;">Although outreach is an important part of the effort and crucial for bringing new volunteers to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting a large diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear and well-supported progression for community volunteers to gain the skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP participants and leaders. <o:p></o:p></span></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;"> </span></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;">We support reversing the current trend of too little focus on the recruiting, development and support of capable volunteer policymakers while increasingly following the expedient path of hiring expert panels, expanding staff and hand-picking “community representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div></div></div></div><span><ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014) MO3.doc></span><div><div><div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:23 AM, Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mike@haven2.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">hi all,<div><br></div><div>thanks for the comments. here’s a new version.</div><div><br></div><div><br><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"></p><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; line-height: 19px; font-family: Calibri;">The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load and correctly identifies this as a major concern. We note that simply increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal. Ultimately what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and effective volunteer participants in PDP working groups. Although outreach is an important part of the effort and crucial for bringing new volunteers to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting a large diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear and well-supported progression for community volunteers to gain the skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP participants and leaders.<span> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>We support reversing the current trend of too little focus on the recruiting, development and support of capable volunteer policymakers while increasingly following the expedient path of hiring expert panels, expanding staff and hand-picking “community representatives” through opaque “selection committees.”<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;"><br></div><div style="line-height: 21px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><span><ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014) MO2.doc></span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div style="line-height: 21px;"><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; line-height: 24px;">On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:54 AM, Thomas Rickert <<a href="mailto:rickert@anwaelte.de" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">rickert@anwaelte.de</a>> wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>+1</div><div><br></div><div>Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Am 21.02.2014 um 15:48 schrieb "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; font-size: 14px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><div>I also support Mikey’s edits, but to Klaus’ point, I’m wondering if we can insert something emphasizing that new participants be “volunteers”? We do not want to encourage the trend of hiring outside experts, proliferating Staff, and hand-picked participants chosen by an opaque “selection committee.”</div><div><br></div><div>J.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span id="OLK_SRC_BODY_SECTION"><div style="font-family: Calibri; font-size: 11pt; text-align: left; border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid none none; padding: 3pt 0in 0in; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223);"><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Klaus Stoll <<a href="mailto:kdrstoll@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">kdrstoll@gmail.com</a>><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Friday, February 21, 2014 at 8:02<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>"Reed, Daniel A" <<a href="mailto:dan-reed@uiowa.edu" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">dan-reed@uiowa.edu</a>>, Mike O'Connor <<a href="mailto:mike@haven2.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mike@haven2.com</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations<br></div><div><br></div><div><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><div class="moz-cite-prefix">Fine with me as long as we don't start breading more "experts".<br><br>Klaus<br><br>On 2/21/2014 2:46 PM, Reed, Daniel A wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:82CB47240F0E8D48A56DC786E7CE16C81021C29B@itsnt442.iowa.uiowa.edu" type="cite"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I think this is fine.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Dan<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(225, 225, 225); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mike O'Connor<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 21, 2014 7:04 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [council] Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2) Final Report & Recommendations<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">hi all,<o:p></o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">i agree Maria. i had a go at adding another paragraph to our response to Rec #10.3 and have attached the revised draft. but to save you time, here’s the language i inserted <o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div><p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">"The ATRT2 report documents how a very small group of dedicated volunteers carry an extraordinary proportion of the working-group load and correctly identifies this as a major concern. We note that simply increasing the pool of people aware of and in some way engaged with ICANN should not be viewed as the goal. Ultimately what is needed is a larger and more diverse group of active and effective participants in PDP working groups. Although outreach is an important part of the effort and crucial for bringing newcomers to ICANN, the path to this goal should not end at simply recruiting a large diverse group of people. Rather, there needs to be a clear and well-supported progression for newcomers to gain the skills, knowledge and experience needed to broaden the ranks of active PDP participants and leaders.</span><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">”</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class="xmsonormal" style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">happy to consider revisions.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">mikey<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On Feb 21, 2014, at 3:56 AM, Maria Farrell <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br><o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">Hi Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I'm happy to support this, and thank you for drafting it. There's one small typo, track changes version attached. It's in para 1, page 3.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">I'd have liked if we tackled head-on the issue of the narrowness of some PDP WGs' participation, which the ATRT2 report provided some pretty convincing numbers on. But as I haven't gone to the trouble of actually drafting anything on it, I can't complain.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">All the best, Maria<o:p></o:p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">On 21 February 2014 09:15, Avri Doria <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">avri@acm.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>Hi,<br><br>As a member of the ATRT2, I do not believe it my job to comment on our report.<br><br>I think the GNSO response is fine as far as it goes and I am pleased that at least something is being submitted - though I must admit I am less than enthused about responses that essentially say "we are already doing that".<br><br>I might have wished for it to be more supportive of other aspects of the report, but the response is what it is.<br><br>avri<br><br><br>On 21-Feb-14 09:43, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<o:p></o:p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin-left: 4.8pt; margin-right: 0in;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 8 HOURS_*<br><br>*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>]<br>*Sent:* 20 February 2014 09:38<br>*To:*<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>*Subject:* RE: Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT<o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>2) Final Report & Recommendations<br><br>All,<br><br>The deadline for submission of public comment on the ends approximately<br>36 hours from now.<br><br>I am OK to submit a letter in substantially the same for as that<br>distributed to you on 14 Feb (see below) and re-attached to this letter.<br><br>BUT<br><br>I need your support to do so. Accordingly, even if you simply provide<br>support without any comment on the content, that will be helpful.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">*_PLEASE RESPOND WITHIN 24 HOURS_*<br><br>Thank-you.<br><br>Jonathan<br><br>*From:*Jonathan Robinson [mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>]<br>*Sent:* 14 February 2014 17:21<br>*To:*<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>*Subject:* Second Accountability and Transparency Review Team (ATRT 2)<br>Final Report & Recommendations<br>*Importance:* High<o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br>All,<br><br>If you are not already, please be aware of the following:<br><br><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">http://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/atrt2-recommendations-09jan14-en.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The opportunity to provide comments _ends one week from today 23h59 UTC<br>on 21 Feb 2014_.<o:p></o:p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><br>The ATRT2 interacted with many in the community during the course of its<br>work, including directly with the GNSO Council which was certainly<br>appreciated. We now have an opportunity to comment on the final report.<br><br>If we do intend to comment, my opinion is that we should at least submit<br>an indication of intent, if not the primary comment, in the initial<br>comment period and not wait for the reply period.<br><br>Given the tight time frame, I have taken the unusual step of drafting a<br>council response for your consideration. The ATRT2 deals with some<br>critical areas of GNSO work and function and so it seems to me that we<br>should respond to the call for comments, specifically in so far as the<br>report deals with GNSO Policy and directly related areas.<br><br>I am aware that some of you were on the ATRT2 and others actively worked<br>on Council interaction with the ATRT2. Therefore, you may well have<br>strong views on the subject matter.<br><br>I look forward to your input and any suggestions.<br><br>Thanks,<br><br>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><ATRT2 - Draft Council Input (14 February 2014).doc><o:p></o:p></div></blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br><span style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Helvetica, sans-serif;">PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.haven2.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span><o:p></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div></div></div></blockquote><br></div></div></span></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.haven2.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div apple-content-edited="true"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline !important;">PHONE: 651-647-6109, FAX: 866-280-2356, WEB:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://www.haven2.com/" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">www.haven2.com</a>, HANDLE: OConnorStP (ID for Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, etc.)</span></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>