<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>For some reason, I just don’t understand the danger this panel is posing. It reads a lot to me like the opinion of someone who is largely uninformed on the nature of the multistakeholder bottom-up consensus building nature of the GNSO processes, and what it takes to make changes to them. Does anyone here actually believe that radical changes in GNSO operating procedures can be unilaterally imposed by Fadi or the ICANN BoDs because the GovLab said so??</div><div><br></div><div>I really would like to hear concerns based on concrete actions you all feel might actually take place. Better yet…, instead of speculating, why not ask the ICANN BoDs to clear this up once and for all? In BA, the phrase “non-binding Board action” was floated around, and I have no idea what a non-binding Board action is.</div><div><br></div><div>I certainly feel that we, the GNSO Council, should do our duty of managing the GNSO's PDP in accordance with the ICANN by-laws, the PDP manual and the WG guidelines. We’ve been elected by our stakeholder groups and constituencies to do just that, and so far, I don’t see an impending assault. I’ve gone through the MSI Panel report and some of the proposals (not all of them), and I am lead to believe that the authors are in no way experts. In fact, ICANN aside, they seem to have a great deal of misguided assumptions on the principles of the ethnography of multistakeholder organisations, and how the introduction of collaborative tools influences them.</div><div><br></div><div>Volker makes some very logical observations:</div><br><div><div>On Mar 12, 2014, at 3:41 PM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-Systems.net">vgreimann@key-Systems.net</a>> wrote:</div><div><br></div><div>[SNIP]</div><span style="font-family: TrebuchetMS;"><br></span></div><div><blockquote type="cite">With regard to the various recommendations:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><br><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> From their perspective and having made themselves aware of the work of the GNSO, the suggested sub-set (from them) for further condensation is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>> 1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Move from "Stakeholder" engagement to Global Engagement: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br>The current stakeholder engagement model provides some form of balance of interests and promotes cooperation and compromise solutions. Global engagement carries the danger of blurring the lines and favoring those who have the funds or time to contribute most and drowning out "lesser" voices. </span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">As a matter of fact, the public comment phases already provide a forum for global engagement and for parties independant of the existing stakeholder groups to make their voices heard.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Exactly…, and they make that completely unfounded assumption that the introduction of more collaborative tools will achieve more global engagement. Perfectly ridiculous.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> 2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Use expert networking: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1lof1c5" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1lof1c5</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span><br></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>This is one I am actually more inclined to support than others, mostly because this is something the ICANN community has already been saying for ages. ICANN needs to be more inclusive of expert opinion. The most recent example is the failure of ICANN staff to grasp the concept of European data protection law and their attempts to negotiate what the law actually means. That said, as we knew this already, this recommendation is not really news, but if it helps ICANN understand, I am all for it.</span></span><br></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No way I’m going to argue with you on that one!! :) I would also add to that - encouraging the trend of commissioning studies such as the recent WHOIS studies provided that the community sets the terms of reference.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> 3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Get Broad-based input/crowdsource at each stage of decision-making: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1czpNXn" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1czpNXn</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br>Last I heard the public comment forums, ICANN participation and PDP participation were not exclusive to ICANN stakeholder groups.</span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>True…, but apparently the “experts” haven’t heard what you’ve heard.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> 4.<span style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Use Open Data and open contracting: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt" target="_blank" style="color: purple;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt</span></a></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Is this not already in place?<br></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Yes again, but the “experts” don’t seem to know how to find the contracts ICANN has with its contracted parties, nor understand how they came to be.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">> 5.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Experiment with Innovative Voting Techniques: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nwta2H" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1nwta2H</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><br>This would be a topic for GNSO reform/innovation.<br></span></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If you mean how the GNSO is structured, maybe. But my understanding was that they not only recommend that the GNSO’s decision-making guidelines be changed, but also decision-making guidelines on the stakeholder group and constituency levels currently defined in their respective charters/by-laws. I just don’t see that happening because they said so.</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">>6.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span>Impose Rotating Term Limits: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr</span></a><br><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">- Th</span>is reminds me of the Russian shuffle: Putin-Medvedev-Putin<br>While I agree that ICANN needs to be more inclusive and outreach remains one of its weak points, I am not sure Rotating Term Limits are the solution.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>All in all, I still think that reform of ICANN should come from within.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sure, but by definition, that means public comment and everyone is entitled to express an opinion.</div><div><br></div><div>I feel that if we want to take a serious step to settle the issue of (specifically) this panel, we need a clear answer from Fadi and the ICANN Board on what their intentions are regarding the proposals being made. For example, if they are in any way related to the work of the SIC and the forthcoming GNSO review, I would like to know about it. My understanding is that the last GNSO review was initiated by the GNSO Council as opposed to the upcoming one, which will be a Board-initiated review. Getting some answers would provide the context we need to decide the appropriate position we need to take.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br>Volker<br></div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><o:p></o:p></span><br><blockquote cite="mid:5320641C.8080302@gmail.com" type="cite"><div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>On 3/5/2014 12:11 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<br></div><blockquote cite="mid:032301cf3863$b48d4a70$1da7df50$@afilias.info" type="cite"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In discussion with Beth Novek and colleagues from the Governance Lab last week, a suggestion emerged that we could potentially narrow down the list of MSI Panel proposals for more detailed discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It is not yet 100% clear to me as to whether or not we will be able to meet with one or more of the team from the Gov Lab in Singapore but it seems likely and, in any event, it’s useful to consider how we might respond to the output of the panel, in particular where it seems to link most closely with our own work. We discussed condensing their work into a most relevant sub-set for further discussion<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From their perspective and having made themselves aware of the work of the GNSO, the suggested sub-set (from them) for further condensation is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>1.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Move from "Stakeholder" engagement to Global Engagement: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>2.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Use expert networking: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1lof1c5" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1lof1c5</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>3.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Get Broad-based input/crowdsource at each stage of decision-making: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1czpNXn" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1czpNXn</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>4.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Use Open Data and open contracting: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>5.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Experiment with Innovative Voting Techniques: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nwta2H" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1nwta2H</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt 47.25pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>6.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Impose Rotating Term Limits: <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: windowtext;">http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></div></div><div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">I also talked with the Gov Lab people about considering the above proposals through a (non-exhaustive) list of criteria as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div></div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>A.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Is the proposal relevant to us?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>B.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Is it currently applicable to our work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>C.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">How could the proposal be modified/amended/advanced to be applicable or more applicable to our work?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><span>D.<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">How might we pilot/test these proposals in order to determine whether and how the proposal could be a useful amendment or reform for ICANN?<o:p></o:p></span></p><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">None of this pre-supposes that this work was commissioned, initiated or executed in a way which we consider optimal.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">It simply takes a “we are where we are” view of the work and recognises that we have the opportunity to potentially engage with the team that undertook the work.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In addition, we will still have the opportunity to provide formal public comment on this and engage through any other applicable forums at the ICANN meeting in Singapore.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Thoughts or input welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; vertical-align: baseline;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote><br></blockquote><br><pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">--
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Im Oberen Werk 1
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