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Thank you Klaus,<br>
<br>
you aptly summarized many of my concers as well.<br>
<br>
<blockquote cite="mid:5320641C.8080302@gmail.com" type="cite">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I do not know how the other
Councillors feel, but I find the developments and the attitudes
displayed by this Panel quite alarming as it just simply rides
roughshod over the role and function of the GNSO at least as far
as I understand them. My simple question is: "Should the GNSO
not take stronger measures in order to ensure that the GNSO and
the multi stakeholder model is not undermined and replaced by
"expert" panels. I think we should go to extraordinary measures
to defend the multi stakeholder model, imperfect as it is. We
owe it to our constituencies and those who voted for us. Talking
to the Board about it, participating in meetings with the Panel
whose outcome is pre determined and nobody really listening,
does not seem enough to me at this moment. They just will do
what they want to do if they are not forced to listen. It might
be time to man and women and barricades against the expert panel
hordes? Is the GNSO such a push over that it takes just some ill
informed, but well funded, academics to render it impotent? I
hope not! Our position should be: either everything that is
recommended and implemented by any of the panels goes through
the full GNSO procedures, or the GNSO steps down as it has lost
his function. I know some say that the recommendations will go
through the GNSO pdp, but the words, attitudes and actions of
the panels clearly indicate otherwise. <br>
<br>
I sincerely hope that it is the case that I am completely wrong
and over reacting at this point, because that would mean one
huge problem less.<br>
<br>
Yours<br>
<br>
Klaus<br>
</div>
</blockquote>
With regard to the various recommendations:<br>
<br>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">>
From their perspective and having made themselves aware of the
work of the GNSO, the suggested sub-set (from them) for further
condensation is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">> 1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Move
from "Stakeholder" engagement to Global Engagement: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><br>
The current stakeholder engagement model provides some form of
balance of interests and promotes cooperation and compromise
solutions. Global engagement carries the danger of blurring
the lines and favoring those who have the funds or time to
contribute most and drowning out "lesser" voices. As a matter
of fact, the public comment phases already provide a forum for
global engagement and for parties independant of the existing
stakeholder groups to make their voices heard.<br>
<br>
> 2.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Use
expert networking: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1lof1c5" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1lof1c5</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><br>
</span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">This is one I am actually more
inclined to support than others, mostly because this is
something the ICANN community has already been saying for
ages. ICANN needs to be more inclusive of expert opinion.
The most recent example is the failure of ICANN staff to
grasp the concept of European data protection law and
their attempts to negotiate what the law actually means.
That said, as we knew this already, this recommendation is
not really news, but if it helps ICANN understand, I am
all for it.</span></span><br>
> 3.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Get
Broad-based input/crowdsource at each stage of decision-making: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1czpNXn"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1czpNXn</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><br>
Last I heard the public comment forums, ICANN participation
and PDP participation were not exclusive to ICANN stakeholder
groups. <br>
<br>
> 4.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Use
Open Data and open contracting: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt</span></a><br>
<o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">Is this not already in place?<br>
> 5.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Experiment
with Innovative Voting Techniques: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1nwta2H" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1nwta2H</span></a><o:p></o:p></span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore"><br>
This would be a topic for GNSO reform/innovation.<br>
>6.<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">
</span></span></span>Impose Rotating Term Limits: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr</span></a><br>
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level1 lfo1"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">-
Th</span>is reminds me of the Russian shuffle:
Putin-Medvedev-Putin<br>
While I agree that ICANN needs to be more inclusive and outreach
remains one of its weak points, I am not sure Rotating Term Limits
are the solution. <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
All in all, I still think that reform of ICANN should come from
within. <br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><br>
Volker<br>
</p>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span><br>
<blockquote cite="mid:5320641C.8080302@gmail.com" type="cite">
<div class="moz-cite-prefix"> <br>
On 3/5/2014 12:11 PM, Jonathan Robinson wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In
discussion with Beth Novek and colleagues from the
Governance Lab last week, a suggestion emerged that we
could potentially narrow down the list of MSI Panel
proposals for more detailed discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
is not yet 100% clear to me as to whether or not we will
be able to meet with one or more of the team from the Gov
Lab in Singapore but it seems likely and, in any event,
it’s useful to consider how we might respond to the output
of the panel, in particular where it seems to link most
closely with our own work. We discussed condensing their
work into a most relevant sub-set for further discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From
their perspective and having made themselves aware of the
work of the GNSO, the suggested sub-set (from them) for
further condensation is as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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level1 lfo1"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">1.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Move
from "Stakeholder" engagement to Global Engagement: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1k7FDNj</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
style="mso-list:Ignore">2.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Use
expert networking: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1lof1c5" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1lof1c5</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Get
Broad-based input/crowdsource at each stage of
decision-making: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1czpNXn" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1czpNXn</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-list:Ignore">4.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Use
Open Data and open contracting: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1jcv3Rt</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-list:Ignore">5.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Experiment
with Innovative Voting Techniques: <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://bit.ly/1nwta2H"
target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1nwta2H</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-list:Ignore">6.<span style="font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Impose
Rotating Term Limits: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr" target="_blank"><span
style="color:windowtext">http://bit.ly/1nUmkEr</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">I
also talked with the Gov Lab people about considering
the above proposals through a (non-exhaustive) list of
criteria as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Is
the proposal relevant to us?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Is
it currently applicable to our work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How
could the proposal be modified/amended/advanced to be
applicable or more applicable to our work?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><span
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"Times New Roman""> </span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">How
might we pilot/test these proposals in order to
determine whether and how the proposal could be a
useful amendment or reform for ICANN?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">None
of this pre-supposes that this work was
commissioned, initiated or executed in a way which
we consider optimal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">It
simply takes a “we are where we are” view of the
work and recognises that we have the opportunity to
potentially engage with the team that undertook the
work.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">In
addition, we will still have the opportunity to
provide formal public comment on this and engage
through any other applicable forums at the ICANN
meeting in Singapore.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Thoughts
or input welcome.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p
style="margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;vertical-align:baseline"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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