<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">hi all,<div><br></div><div>one of the nice things about a poor memory, that is failing, is the frequent opportunity to go “oh! i remember now!” :-)</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>oh! i remember now!</div><div><br></div><div>by the way — i also can’t remember if i shared this little thought exercise i did on an earlier draft of their recommendations — the details are wrong now (i haven’t had time to really grind through their final draft, that’s airplane reading) but the concept still works for me. i’ve attached that little picture to this note.</div><div><br></div><div>i think their stuff is fine — but i want to evaluate the relevance/usefulness of their proposals along at least three continuums:</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Goals <—> Tools</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Participation <—> Policy Making </div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Working Groups <—> SG/Constituencies</div><div><br></div><div>the little picture i’ve attached only does two dimensions, i thought of the third one later. there may well be more. </div><div><br></div><div>their work would have been improved by having a few knowledgeable people selected as part of the “expert working group", but hey that’s true for almost all of them. we’ve *got* to defend that “working group” brand better in the future. </div><div><br></div><div>thanks all.</div><div><br></div><div>mikey</div><div><br></div><div>PS. sorry for throwing the NCSG under the bus — i’m quoted as saying that they would be a great place to experiment with Liquid Democracy. nope, i don’t remember saying that (see how handy a failing memory is?), but in that particular instance i also can’t imagine *why* i would have said it. i’ll own the words, there’s no unringing that bell. however...</div><div><br></div><div>i bet what i *meant* to say, and which i think might be true, is that the *constituencies and SGs of the non-contracted parties house* of the GNSO might be a good place to try some of those things out. mostly, what i was trying to get at is that there are some places where some of those ideas would be a Really Bad Idea (working groups, and the Contracted Parties House). we non-contracted SG/constituencies have a need to broaden our reach and do a better job of preparing people to be effective participants in WGs. some of these ideas might be good things to experiment with. but i like to put myself in the boat with everybody else, not throw some of us under the bus. sorry about that.</div><div><br></div><div><img apple-inline="yes" id="1854C48F-A373-4ABE-B0D2-3580C9CEC07A" height="682" width="909" apple-width="yes" apple-height="yes" src="cid:FE78546E-CE42-4502-AEA4-C4594B2FA23F@lan"></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 19, 2014, at 6:58 AM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-Systems.net">vgreimann@key-Systems.net</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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One topic that may be worth raising during the discussion is whether
the work of the panels will be expanded to take into account the
recent developments. I am particularly interested, how ICANN can
develop and implement a truly bottom-up, multistakeholder
accountability structure. Is accountability even an issue for the
strategy panels? It should be...<br>
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<div>Mikey,</div>
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<div>Recall that we originally sought to have Beth Novack, the
chair of the Multi-Stakeholder Innovation Strategy Panel attend
so that there might be a Q-and-A. This was driven by the
initial set of proposals from the Panel and the emergence of
"crowdsourcing" as a legitimate way to make policy.</div>
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<div>Staff will be standing in. </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [council] can somebody remind me what the
"Teresa Swinehart Update" item is on Sunday?<br>
From: "David Cake" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au"><dave@difference.com.au></a><br>
Date: 3/18/14 9:23 pm<br>
To: "Mike O'Connor" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mike@haven2.com"><mike@haven2.com></a><br>
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Theresa will be updating us on the MSI panels work before we
have our open discussion about them.
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<div>On 19 Mar 2014, at 4:33 am, Mike O'Connor <<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:mike@haven2.com">mike@haven2.com</a>>
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<div>i’m looking at that Teresa Swinehart Update
item on Sunday morning just before the Strat Panel
section. i can’t remember what she’s updating us
*about* can somebody remind me?</div>
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<div>sorry to be so dense,</div>
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