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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Maria, Amr & Volker,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>A reminder of my previous post as to the timetable that I believe we need to try to work to as follows:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>1.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>28 March 2014 - Publication date of minutes of NGPC<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>a.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Refers the issue to the GNSO Council and <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>b.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Sets clock to start regarding 45 days<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>2.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>10 April 2014 - GNSO Council Meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>a.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Become as well-briefed as possible and <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>b.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Ask initial questions / have the discussion to clarify the position<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>3.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>10 April to 8 May 2014 - Inter-meeting period<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>a.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Provides for any supplementary information gathering and <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>b.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Discussion / further discussion in groups / constituencies and <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>c.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Discussion on council list and (to work within the 45 days) <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>d.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Drafting of a response <o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>4.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>28 April 2014 - Motion deadline for next GNSO meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>5.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>8 May 2014 - GNSO Meeting<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>a.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Opportunity to conclude a position in time to meet 45 day deadline or<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:72.0pt'>b.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>Agree to request an extension<o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-left:36.0pt'>6.<span style='font-size:7.0pt'> </span>12 May 2014 - 45 day deadline<o:p></o:p></p><p> Recognising that by our 10 April meeting, you may not yet have had time to become fully informed or consult within your groups, I suggest we focus that discussion on establishing the background and facts.<span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Maria Farrell [mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 09 April 2014 14:55<br><b>To:</b> Amr Elsadr<br><b>Cc:</b> Volker Greimann; Jonathan Robinson; council@gnso.icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] BRG FAQ Specification 13 - GNSO Council Discussion 10 Apr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Hi all,<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I've got no particular axe to grind either on this issue - just an awareness it's something I don't have much substantive knowledge about. So I think I'm in a similar position to Amr in wanting to be well informed, but that my interest doesn't make any presumptions about what the Council's role might be. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>In any case, I'm happy to be available for a longer call tomorrow. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Many thanks, Maria<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 9 April 2014 14:42, Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org" target="_blank">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Volker,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yes…, of course. It is the GNSO and anyone willing to participate in its process (not the Council) who tackle policy issues. But for those of us who weren’t around in 2007, understanding the policy context involved in this topic is helpful in determining (beyond any doubt) what process is the most suitable to follow. I know I’m picking up new stuff as I go along almost on a daily basis!! :)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#888888'>Amr<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-systems.net" target="_blank">vgreimann@key-systems.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"TrebuchetMS","serif"'>Hi Amr,<br><br>the topic on the call tomorrow is intended to define the process by which the GNSO (not the council) should tackle this issue. We therefore should not go into the subject matter too deep. The debate of the subject itself should be reserved to the next proper meeting, when all constituencies had a chance to frame this issue and form an opinion. Even then, our options may be limited by the policy tools at our disposal.<br><br>Volker<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Amr,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You raise a few good points, not least of which is the time available to achieve what we ideally need to tomorrow.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am conscious that this meeting was not on our original schedule and has evolved recently.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>What I’d like to do is work with an “up to” 90 minute slot for the meeting. It is currently shoe-horned into 60 minutes but I am conscious that this may not be enough.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Accordingly, could all councillors please be prepared to be available for 60 minutes minimum and up to 90 minutes if necessary.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Amr Elsadr [<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org</span></a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 09 April 2014 13:53<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] BRG FAQ Specification 13 - GNSO Council Discussion 10 Apr.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks. It seems reasonable to have Martin Sutton available on tomorrow’s call. I have been trying to catch up on this issue and prepare to be as informed as possible before our discussion tomorrow. We will only have 20 minutes for this purpose on tomorrow’s call as per the posted meeting agenda, so I have doubts about how informed we will be at the meeting’s end.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We will however have time to explore this issue further following the call, and I would like to second the idea Thomas suggested on another thread of reaching out to some of the original WG members to get some insight on the context of the original WG recommendation and discussions leading up to them. Although it seems the .Brand registries model was not taken into consideration at the time, a briefing by the WG members may help us reach a decision on how to proceed with our response to the board.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Amr<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Apr 9, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please see the note below (and associate attachment) from Martin Sutton.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the interests of achieving our objective tomorrow i.e. being as fully informed as possible, I propose to take him up on his offer of being available to answer questions.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>martinsutton@hsbc.com</span></a> [<a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com</span></a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 09 April 2014 10:38<br><b>To:</b> Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Subject:</b> BRG FAQ Specification 13 - GNSO Council Discussion 10 Apr.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dear Jonathan,</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I note that the next GNSO Council meeting is scheduled for 10 April and includes a discussion item for Specification 13 and the proposed incorporation of an additional clause, which the NGPC has referred to GNSO.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>In order to support these discussions, the Brand Registry Group (BRG) has prepared the following set of FAQs that I trust will assist the GNSO Council's deliberations:</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Furthermore, I would be glad to make myself available to join the the telephone meeting on 10 April to answer any resulting or related questions. If this would be helpful, please advise me of the time and contact information.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Finally, you may have already seen that ICANN has recently posted the correspondence from Gretchen Olive, CSC, which was sent through on the morning of the NGPC meeting in Singapore. The correspondence includes letters from 48 .brand applicants, arranged in just a couple of days, urging ICANN to reinstate the exclusive registrar provision. Considering most of these companies are not BRG members and would have had to jump considerable hoops in order to issue public statements of this nature, I think it is useful for the GNSO Council to bear in mind when considering their response to spec 13 - there is a much broader impact than just the BRG. A copy of the correspondence can be found here - </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a href="http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/olive-to-crocker-et-al-26mar14-en.pdf" target="_blank"><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:purple'>http://www.icann.org/en/news/correspondence/olive-to-crocker-et-al-26mar14-en.pdf</span></a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>I look forward to hearing from you.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Kind regards,<br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Martin Sutton</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>President, Brand Registry Group</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt'> <br></span><br><br><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>Martin C SUTTON </span></b><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Manager, Group Fraud Risk & Intelligence <br>Global Security & Fraud Risk<br>Level 8,1 Canada Square,Canary Wharf,London,E14 5AB,United Kingdom</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>__________________________________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'><tr><td width="25%" style='width:25.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td><td width="75%" style='width:75.0%;padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'>Phone</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29207%20991%208074" target="_blank">+44 (0)207 991 8074</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'>Mobile</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'><a href="tel:%2B44%20%280%29777%204556680" target="_blank">+44 (0)777 4556680</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'>Email</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="mailto:martinsutton@hsbc.com" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>martinsutton@hsbc.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr><tr><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#4F4F4F'>Website</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></td><td style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.hsbc.com/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>www.hsbc.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:red'>__________________________________________________________________</span> <br><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:green'>Protect our environment - please only print this if you have to!</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></td></tr></table><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><br><br>************************************************************<br>HSBC Holdings plc<br>Registered Office: 8 Canada Square, London E14 5HQ, United Kingdom<br>Registered in England number 617987<br>************************************************************<br><br><br>************************************************************<br>HSBC Holdings plc<br>Registered Office: 8 Canada Square, London E14 5HQ, United Kingdom<br>Registered in England number 617987<br>************************************************************<br></span>----------------------------------------- SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT! 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