<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;">All,<div>I would like to offer a few thoughts for your consideration:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Unlike in the meeting in Singapore, the Board / NGPC is not asking us to change GNSO policy recommendation by way of negotiation. Some rightfully pointed out that the policy recommendations cannot be changed informally by way of negotiations. The letter we received does not suggest that, but it refers to the existing procedure to revisit and potentially modify GNSO policy recommendation. </div><div><br></div><div>2. The NGPC's initiative to contact the parties involved is the right way. It is my view that it is the Board's / NGPC's responsibility to assess whether solutions can be found to mitigate friction between the GAC and the GNSO. Imagine the Board had just made a determination without reaching out to either party. I would have perceived that as top-down. Again, if proper process allows for considering and actually reaching compromise solutions, it is legitimate to ask the GNSO Council to consider this option. </div><div><br></div><div>3. Looking at what would need to be done, the modifications would be required:</div><div><br></div><div>- The GNSO recommendations included one that would permit IGO acronyms for a 90 days claims service. The request is that this is extended to the lifetime of the TMCH. So basically we are talking about extending the </div><div><br></div><div>- Opening the URS for these designations. That is covered by the recently initiated PDP. I also note that the Board has indicated they will wait for the outcome of the PDP.</div><div><br></div><div>- Protecting additional RCRC designations, which have so far been granted the 90 days claims service in our recommendations.</div><div><br></div><div>From memory, protections for IGO acronym protections have been the most controversial designations both at the WG as well as the Council level. For these, we are not asked for additional protections such as reserving or blocking. </div><div><br></div><div>There should be a discussion whether or not the Council should reconvene the WG. I am standing by to continue chairing the WG and its deliberations if need be. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Let me suggest we discuss the following two questions separately:</div><div><br></div><div>1. Shall the NGPC's recommendation be followed and the WG reconvene?</div><div><br></div><div>2. How does the Council view the Board's / NGPC's approach to resolving the issue?</div><div><br></div><div>It seems to me that the concerns of many are relating to the second, fundamental question. This is why I think it would be helpful to separate the two, i.e. talk about the specific suggestion relating to the policy recommendations and also about the more general issue.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Thomas</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>Am 17.06.2014 um 18:22 schrieb <a href="mailto:john@crediblecontext.com">john@crediblecontext.com</a>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>All,</div>
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<div>Based on the presentation we got from Chris Disspain in Singapore, the Board is trying to figure out how to abide by the contradictory Council policy (passed unanimously) and GAC advice (s growing presence in the life of ICANN) on the matter. I feel their pain, but worry/assume in the current Internet governance-fueled environment, if a collaborative solution is not found, the GAC will prevail.</div>
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<div>Not compromise or capitulation, but collaboration. </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [council] FW: Letter from Cherine Chalaby<br>From: "Maria Farrell" <<a href="mailto:maria.farrell@gmail.com">maria.farrell@gmail.com</a>><br>Date: 6/17/14 9:08 am<br>To: "Jonathan Robinson" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>><br>Cc: "Marika Konings" <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br><br>
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