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I think we have had a number of good suggestions including from Avri
and James which all fit under one overarching theme: "What is the
essence of ICANN?", i.e. is ICANN the corporation, is ICANN the
community, or is it both? <br>
<br>
Avris trust comments stem from a problem that arises when staff
makes an upopular decision, rubber stamped by the board in a process
that has no accountability built in that is worth writing home
about. We have seen public comment presentations where comments were
re-interpreted or manipulated to suit a certain desired outcome.<br>
<br>
Such actions breed dissent and potentially disfunctionality. We have
discussed the problem of recruiting volunteers for policy work, but
is it a wonder that volunteer numbers are dwindling when the
perception exists (real or imagined) that big decisions are made
that exclude or disregard community input? What causes for mistrust
can be eliminated, and how? How do we see ICANN accountability as
functional and effective? How should government influence work,
where are its limits?<br>
<br>
So I would propose that instead of focussing on one narrow topic we
should initiate a series of bottom-up debates on how the community
would like to see ICANN develop in the next years, an Agenda 2020 if
you will. <br>
<br>
Best,<br>
<br>
Volker<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 27.08.2014 15:21, schrieb James M.
Bladel:<br>
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<div>Hi Jonathan, thanks for kicking this off. Another potential
topic, perhaps belonging under the umbrella of "Accountability":</div>
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<div>I would like to see a frank & candid, community-wide
discussion on the future role of the GAC. Between TLD
safeguards, proposed changes to the Bylaws, the sticky IGO/NGO
issue, and the very real possibility that the GAC could
unilaterally adopt a voting model, all converge on an ICANN
model that is dominated by a multi-governmental structure, which
fails a key element of the March 2014 NTIA announcement.</div>
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<div>Everyone recognizes the need for governments to have a seat
at the table, and for their advice to be given careful
consideration on matters concerning public policy. But there's
a sliver of "public policy" in everything at ICANN, and the
nature of government participation makes them reluctant to
accept anything short of immediate and total adoption of their
advice.</div>
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</div>
<div>Where do we go from here? Can the relevance of the SO/ACs be
preserved, or is every topic or material issue destined to
become a GAC/Board negotiation? What limitations or backstops
can check government influence, while still allowing for full
consideration of their advice?</div>
<div><br>
Thank you,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>J.</div>
<div>____________</div>
<div>James Bladel</div>
<div>GoDaddy</div>
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On Aug 26, 2014, at 14:40, "Jonathan Robinson" <<a
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Please be aware
that ICANN is seeking (urgent) input on selection of
content for a “high interest” topic session in LA.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Jonathan <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
lang="EN-US"> David Olive [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org">mailto:david.olive@icann.org</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 26 August 2014 03:04<br>
<b>To:</b> Byron Holland; <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:heather.dryden@ic.gc.ca">heather.dryden@ic.gc.ca</a>;
Jonathan Robinson; Louie Lee; Olivier MJ
Crepin-Leblond; Patrik Fältström; Jun Murai;
Lars-Johan Liman; Elisa Cooper; tony holmes;
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:krosette@cov.com">krosette@cov.com</a>;
rafik dammak; William Drake; Michele Neylon ::
Blacknight; Drazek, Keith; Rudi Vansnick; Fadi
Chehade; Cassia Oliveira; Tina Shelebian; Lynn
Lipinski; Lynn Gravel; Gisella Gruber; Global
Leadership; William Drake; Robert Hoggarth; Duncan
Burns<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SO-AC-SG HIGH INTEREST TOPIC
SESSION @ ICANN 51 in Los Angeles - A Reminder<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black">Dear Community Leaders:</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black">It’s been an unusually busy
August so far and, understandably, I have not
received much feedback from you all on prospective
topics for your SO-AC High-Interest topic at the
ICANN51 Public Meeting in Los Angeles. </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black">Certain topics, such as ICANN
Accountability, the IANA Stewardship Transition,
and new gTLD Directory Services (WHOIS), appear to
be covered by other session programming on Monday or
elsewhere during the week, so, additional topics are
now needed for the potential session discussion.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black">The staff meeting and
programming team is giving me some more time to
collaborate with you on this session, and we should
start identifying some specific topics so that you
have time to lead some conversations within your
communities over the next month in preparation for
the LA session discussion.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="color:black">I’ve been able to extend the
topic-brainstorming deadline to COB this Thursday.
Please share any thoughts or ideas with me at your
earliest convenience.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b>Date: </b>Thursday, August 14, 2014 7:49 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Byron Holland <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:byron.holland@cira.ca">byron.holland@cira.ca</a>>,
Heather Dryden <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca">Heather.Dryden@ic.gc.ca</a>>,
Jonathan Robinson <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com">jonathan.robinson@ipracon.com</a>>,
Louie Lee <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond <<a
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Patrik Fältström <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:paf@netnod.se">paf@netnod.se</a>>,
Jun Murai <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:junsec@wide.ad.jp">junsec@wide.ad.jp</a>>,
Lars-Johan Liman <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:liman@netnod.se">liman@netnod.se</a>>,
Elisa Cooper <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com">Elisa.Cooper@markmonitor.com</a>>,
tony holmes <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tonyarholmes@btinternet.com">tonyarholmes@btinternet.com</a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:krosette@cov.com">krosette@cov.com</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:krosette@cov.com">krosette@cov.com</a>>,
Rafik Dammak <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>,
William Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:william.drake@uzh.ch">william.drake@uzh.ch</a>>,
"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>,
"Drazek, Keith" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>,
Rudi Vansnick <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a>>,
Fadi Chehade <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:fadi.chehade@icann.org">fadi.chehade@icann.org</a>>,
Cassia Oliveira <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cassia.oliveira@icann.org">cassia.oliveira@icann.org</a>>,
Tina Shelebian <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:tina.shelebian@icann.org">tina.shelebian@icann.org</a>>,
Lynn Lipinski <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lynn.lipinski@icann.org">lynn.lipinski@icann.org</a>>,
Lynn Gravel <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:lynn.gravel@cira.ca">lynn.gravel@cira.ca</a>>,
Gisella Gruber <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Gisella.Gruber@icann.org">Gisella.Gruber@icann.org</a>>,
Global Leadership <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:global_leadership@icann.org">global_leadership@icann.org</a>>,
William Drake <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>>,
Rob Hoggarth <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:robert.hoggarth@icann.org">robert.hoggarth@icann.org</a>>,
Duncan Burns <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>Subject: </b>SO-AC-SG HIGH INTEREST TOPIC SESSION
@ ICANN 51 in Los Angeles<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear
SO/AC/SG Leaders:</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Thank
you all for confirming your interest in
proceeding with the planning for an SO-AC High
Interest Session in Los Angeles. Working with
our staff Meeting Team colleagues, it appears
that Monday in LA will again offer the best
window for the session. I have informed the
ICANN 51 Steering Committee of the need for
the session and we have discussed the
following scenario.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Monday
programming will offer opportunities for
community discussion on a range of topics of
high interest to the community. We can count
on their being at least one session addressing
the IANA Stewardship Transition and another
session addressing the ICANN Accountability
matter. Heather has also noted the likelihood
of a GAC request for a session on Registration
Data (WHOIS) issues.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">As
a result of this overall concept, we suggest
planning to conduct a session that highlights
one or two topics of high community interest
<u>that are different</u> from these three
main topic areas. It would be helpful to have
you share topic suggestion on this list over
the next week or so. Staff will compile the
list of all suggestion received by 25 August
and then I’ll circulate the list of
possibilities to all of you for winnowing
down. My hope is that, via email, we can
quickly reach consensus on a couple of topics
so that all of you will have the opportunity
to glean your community views to share during
the session.</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Logistically,
we will plan to run the session largely like
the previous hot-topic session in Buenos Aires
– recall the Brad White-led format. I am
happy to get feedback from you on any
improvements we can introduce to that format
previous format.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Looking
forward to hearing your suggestion of topics.</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best
regards,</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> </span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">David</span><span
style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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A. Olive</span><span
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President, Policy Development Support<br>
General Manager, ICANN Regional
Headquarters –Istanbul</span><span
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