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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-GB link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Taking you back to this thread since I have received a follow-up request on this. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The points made were interesting but we may have got a little side-tracked, at least in so far as producing a practical outcome for the Nom Com.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Therefore, I’d like to ask specifically <b><u>if there is a willing volunteer to pick up the pen and undertake a revision of the existing document</u></b>.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The objective being to review and edit (if necessary) the existing document such that we can return it to the Nom Com.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In my opinion, the existing document (re-attached for reference) is reasonable and may even be satisfactory.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>So, anyone available to review and propose and relevant edits such that we can turn this around and return it to the Nom Com?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Reed, Daniel A [mailto:dan-reed@uiowa.edu] <br><b>Sent:</b> 03 November 2014 03:13<br><b>To:</b> David Cake; James M. Bladel; council@gnso.icann.org<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Law is far too restrictive. Common sense and experience are far more important.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>David Cake<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 02, 2014 8:09 PM<br><b>To:</b> James M. Bladel; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] NomCom appointee skill sets<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>If we were to use this language for additions to the Baseline criteria. I agree with James that would be appropriate. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>David<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On 3 Nov 2014, at 9:07 am, James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Colleagues:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Apologies for jumping in to this thread so late. But it occurs to me that by using the word "law" we are significantly (and, IMO, inappropriately) limiting the potential pool of NomCom appointees to lawyers.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Recommend that we replace each instance of "law" with broader terms, like "issues" or "concepts" or "topics."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><br>Thank you, <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>J.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>____________<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>James Bladel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>GoDaddy<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><br>On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:15 AM, David Cake <<a href="mailto:dave@difference.com.au">dave@difference.com.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>On 3 Nov 2014, at 7:00 am, Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:Heather.Forrest@acu.edu.au">Heather.Forrest@acu.edu.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dear colleagues,</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I read Brian’s suggested addition of IP law to the skillset as motivated by the specification of certain relevant areas of the law but not others. If we articulate the skill set at a higher level of abstraction (knowledge of and experience in relation to law relevant to the DNS), would that satisfy all concerns?</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Not really. We would still be specifying a set of legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberation, rather than a set of legal skills that we think would likely be useful to council deliberations AND that the council is unlikely to already have. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>To reiterate - my issue with having intellectual property law on the list isn't because I think intellectual property law isn't important (it clearly is), my issue is that any given council almost certainly has at least two experts in IP law, and I've don't think in the time I've been in iCANN there have been less than three on council. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>The more specific we are in our instructions to NomCom, the likely we are that NomCom will give us some of what we ask for.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>And NomCom does seem to pay attention to the list, though clearly reliant on who applies (for example, the prior list included both intergovernmental expertise and economics, and we got Carlos, an economist who has been in the GAC. Thanks, NomCom!). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>I'd have no particular objection to adding Brian's 'general comprehension of IP law' to the baseline criteria expected of all councillors - I presume all of us could explain what a trademark, copyright, and patent are if pressed, and most of us have significantly more knowledge than that - though it doesn't seem as important to me as the other baseline criteria, such as basic knowledge of DNS systems and industry structure. But the variable criteria are to 'fill gaps in the skill set of the Council' (quoting directly), and I don't think intellectual property law is a notable gap.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US>David<o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best wishes,</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Heather</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Edward Morris<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Saturday, 1 November 2014 6:02 PM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [council] FW: NomCom appointee skill sets</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Hello Susan.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>- At the end of the day consumer protection, insuring that the domain name system is safe and secure, should be one of our highest priorities.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I agree with you that consumer protection is a justifiable and proper rationale for the creation and extension of intellectual monopoly rights and has been deemed so in Anglo-American jurisprudence, at least, since the Bakers Marking Law of 1266. We may on occasion disagree with the structure and scope of such rights but I'm delighted there seems to be some practical agreement on the purpose of the rights themselves.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>-We could restructure the list </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>International law which includes the following: </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Data protection</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Privacy</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Consumer rights</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Human rights</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Competition law</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Intellectual property law</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>I think this is a fine and practical proposal that I support.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Thanks so much for your contribution.</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Regards,</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-AU style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Ed</span><span lang=EN-AU><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>