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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, April 13, 2015 at 12:45 <br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>Amr Elsadr <<a href="mailto:aelsadr@egyptig.org">aelsadr@egyptig.org</a>>, James Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Cc: </span>Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-Systems.net">vgreimann@key-Systems.net</a>>, "<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>>,
GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [council] Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I will soon be publishing an extensive article on this matter.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">For now I would point out that, regardless of the timing of the IPC letter, ICANN received a letter from Sen. Jay Rockefeller, then-Chairman of the
US Senate Commerce Committee, raising essentially the same concerns in March 2014.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">
<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Amr Elsadr<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, April 13, 2015 6:52 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Volker Greimann; <a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>;
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Apologies for coming back to this thread so late, but just wanted to voice my support of the perspectives offered by Volker and James. As this gTLD has already been delegated, and unless there is any reason to believe the registry is not
in compliance with its Registry Agreement, I don’t see why ICANN staff would be required or mandated to freeze the launch of .SUCKS.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One part of the blog by Allen Grogen caught my attention, and I probably need to look into this a bit more closely before opining:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>“…, <span style="color:#333333;background:white">if Vox Populi is not complying with all applicable laws, it may also be in breach of its registry agreement. </span>ICANN<span style="color:#333333;background:white"> could then act
consistently with its public interest goals and consumer and business protections to change these practices through our contractual relationship with the registry.”</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Personally speaking, although I understand the concerns raised by the IPC, I’m not convinced that there is necessarily any malicious intent on the part of Vox Populi. Like Volker said, I agree that this is an interesting business model.
Just not entirely sure its actual objective is to extort trademark holders. If the IPC would like to suggest initiation of a policy process to somehow address this, that would be its prerogative. Additionally, should ICANN compliance staff determine that there
indeed is a contractual issue ICANN needs to resolve, I would recommend that a discussion about this be held with the GNSO to clarify the reasoning.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Amr<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Apr 1, 2015, at 6:12 PM, James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">This TLD has attracted quite a bit of (negative, and perhaps deservedly so) attention recently, but I am confused by this letter. The window to take action was likely prior
to delegation. Once the TLD is delegated and the contract is signed, I don’t see ICANN Staff having the authority to do anything to “halt” the launch. Probably why they didn’t….<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Volker Greimann <<a href="mailto:vgreimann@key-Systems.net"><span style="color:purple">vgreimann@key-Systems.net</span></a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, April 1, 2015 at 10:28<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
<b>To:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info"><span style="color:purple">jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a>" <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info"><span style="color:purple">jrobinson@afilias.info</span></a>>,
GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><span style="color:purple">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>><br>
<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [council] FW: Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Interesting business model, but not really an issue for the GNSO, unless someone is proposing to take this as a basis for new policy development.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
As an observer with no skin in this game, this looks to be an issue for compliance to determine if the model violates the policies and/or contracts or not and if it does, to take action accordingly.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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For the interesting question of the different fee structure, there seems to be an explanation already:<br>
<a href="http://domainincite.com/18282-that-mystery-1-million-sucks-fee-explained-and-its-probably-not-what-you-thought"><span style="color:purple">http://domainincite.com/18282-that-mystery-1-million-sucks-fee-explained-and-its-probably-not-what-you-thought</span></a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Am 01.04.2015 um 11:49 schrieb Jonathan Robinson:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span class="apple-converted-space"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">Greg
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<b>Sent:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>27 March 2015 20:45<br>
<b>To:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Jonathan Robinson<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class="apple-converted-space"> </span>Fwd: Intellectual Property Constituency Communication to ICANN Regarding dotSUCKS</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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