<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I have no objection.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Amr</div><br><div><div>On Apr 28, 2015, at 4:10 PM, Jonathan Robinson <<a href="mailto:jrobinson@afilias.info">jrobinson@afilias.info</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div lang="EN-GB" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: TrebuchetMS; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">All,<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please see below from Rafik. I expect that this is something we can deal with at our enxt GNSO Council meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Any concerns?<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Jonathan<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);"> </span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;"><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Rafik Dammak [<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;">mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>27 April 2015 13:35<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Jonathan Robinson<br><b>Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>David Cake; Volker Greimann; Glen de Saint Géry; Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond<br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Request to no-objection on interpretation charter CCWG IG<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><o:p> </o:p></div><div><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Dear Jonathan,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In order to complete the transition of the Cross-Community Working Group Internet Governance (CCWG IG) to a fully chartered CCWG, we seek your non objection on an interpretation of the section on observers in the CCWG IG charter to mean: "In addition, the CCWG-IG will be open to any interested person as a participant. Participants may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group not represented in the CCWG-IG, or may be self-appointed. Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-IG meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-IG members appointed by the chartering organizations.”<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">If you agree, could be so kind to convey the “no-objection” to us?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Olivier Crepin-Leblond (ALAC), and Rafik Dammak (GNSO)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Co-Chairs of the CCWG IG<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Introduction and background. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">At its meeting in Singapore the cross-community working group on Internet Governance (CCWG IG), discussed how to complete its transition to the formally chartered CCWG as envisioned by the chartering organizations. The main issue that needs to be addressed is dealing with the current status of (former) participants, taking into account the rules of the charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">As you will recall the CCWG IG was originally an informal group, with no charter. Participants of the original group felt it necessary to provide a solid basis for its work and hence developed a charter, which was proposed to all supporting organizations and advisory committees for adoption. As you will know the charter was adopted by the ALAC, ccNSO, GNSO and SSAC in the September/ November 2014 timeframe. Following adoption of the charter some of the chartering organizations appointed members and a co-chair to the CCWG IG as envisioned in the charter, and one (SSAC) although adopting the charter, reclined from its ability to appoint members. The newly appointed SO and AC members included some of the participants of the former, informal Internet Governance community group. To date the SO and AC have not appointed observers as envisioned in the charter. As a result participants now include newly appointed members, and people who have signed-up as participants in the (former) informal Internet Governance group I.e. before it was chartered (see:<a href="https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 233);">https://community.icann.org/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=43984275</span></a>). <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In order to avoid to have to go through a formal charter changing process, we seek to achieve an effective change through an agreed interpretation of the term ”observers” in the charter.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Current definition of membership. According to the current charter of the CCWG IG membership of the CCWG includes members (appointed by the chartering organisations, according to their own rules and procedures), observers and experts. In this context observers are described as people who:"In addition, all SOs and ACs may appoint Observers if permitted by and in accordance with their own rules and procedures. Such Observers are entitled to participate in WG deliberations on an equal footing with the Members except for formal voting, when called for by the Co-Chairs of the WG. Voting is limited only to Members. The number of Observers appointed by each SO and AC shall not exceed the number of Members appointed by that SO or AC."<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The proposed changes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">In order to complete the transition to the fully chartered CCWG IG, we seek your non objection on an interpretation of the section on observers in the CCWG IG charter to mean: "In addition, the CCWG-IG will be open to any interested person as a participant. Participants may be from a chartering organization, from a stakeholder group not represented in the CCWG-IG, or may be self-appointed. Participants will be able to actively participate in and attend all CCWG-IG meetings, work groups and sub-work groups. However, should there be a need for a consensus call or decision, such consensus call or decision will be limited to CCWG-IG members appointed by the chartering organizations” (which is similar to the language in the charter of the CCWG- Accountability) <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The major changes would be: <o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">No limit on the number of observers/ participants;<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 36pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -18pt;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Symbol;"><span>·<span style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 7pt; line-height: normal; font-family: 'Times New Roman';"> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></span></span><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Self-nomination as participant versus appointment by a chartering organization, allowing for broader participation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The benefits of this interpretation would be normalization of membership rules across the CCWG and CWGs (best practice) and providing clarity around “legacy” participation.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">Before the CCWG IG was chartered, community members participated and participate in the activities of this particular CCWG (“legacy” participants). To date these participants have not been appointed by a SO or AC. Experience with the CWG Stewardship and CCWG Accountability has shown that broad participation, with additional obligations and privileges for appointed members, provides a fair and workable basis and at the same time increases transparency, interest in the work, and active participation of the broader community and community members.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"> </span></p><p style="margin-right: 0cm; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;">The drafting team introduced a restrictive membership and participation rule at the time of drafting in response to risks of a WG without charter, un-clarity of representation on the WG and interest WG represents in its public statements. However, with charter in place resulting in a clearly defined role for chartering organizations and members, and the positive experience to date with participants on the CWG Stewardship and CCWG Accountability, a more liberal interpretation of the “observer” rule as described above is advised, as it would increase the value to the community and legitimacy of the CCWG IG. </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>