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<p>FYI, some useful background for meeting with Fadi tomorrow...</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October 17, 2015 11:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Dr Eberhard W Lisse<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Accountability Cross Community<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [CCWG-ACCT] Fadi on our work<br>
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<div dir="ltr">For those interested, closing comments from Thomas and Fadi.
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">>><b>THOMAS RICKERT</b>: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND BEFORE WE LEAVE, WE WANTED TO THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR INTEREST IN THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE AND FOR HAVING ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT TO YOU WHERE THE COMMUNITY PROCESS STANDS.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">AT THE SAME TIME, I'D LIKE TO ECHO WHAT KAVOUSS SAID. WE WOULD REALLY LIKE TO EXTEND THE INVITATION TO WORK WITH US TO EVERYONE IN THIS ROOM AND CAN TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO BE HERE WITH US HERE TODAY.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">IT'S IMPORTANT WORK. IT'S GOOD WORK. IT'S ASTOUNDING TO SEE THE COLLABORATIVE SPIRIT OF EVERYONE IN THE ROOM, TO COME TO A CONCLUSION. AND ALTHOUGH THIS IS VERY CHALLENGING, WE'RE EVEN HAVING FUN AT TIMES.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">SO COME JOIN THE TEAM.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">>><b>FADI CHEHADE</b>: THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME AND ALL OF US TO COME AND TAKE SOME TIME WITH YOU. I WANT TO LEAVE YOU WITH THREE SUBSTANTIVE POINTS.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">THE FIRST ONE, WHATEVER WE DO, MAKE YOUR KEY PRINCIPLE THE AVOIDANCE OF CAPTURE. IT IS CRITICAL. IT IS HOW WE HOLD TO THE MULTISTAKEHOLDER MODEL. IF WE ARE CAPTURED OR IF WE CREATE A MODEL THAT ALLOWS FOR CAPTURE BY SPECIAL INTERESTS
OR SPECIAL AGENDAS, IN MY OPINION, THE ICANN WE WERE ALL HANDED WOULD HAVE BEEN RUINED.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">TWO, WATCH CAREFULLY FOR ACCOUNTABILITY MEASURES THAT REFOCUS AND ANCHOR ICANN IN THE CALIFORNIA COURTS AS OPPOSED TO CONTINUING THE PROJECT OF GLOBALIZATION WE ALL STARTED. WATCH FOR THAT.</div>
<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">IF ALL ROADS END THERE, THAT'S ONE THING. BUT IF ALL ROADS START AT THE COURTS, WE HAVE A PROBLEM. SO THIS IS THE DISTINCTION.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">ARE THE COURTS THE FINAL POINT OF ENFORCEMENT OR ARE THEY THE FIRST POINT OF ENFORCEMENT? ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION AS YOU WATCH THE VARIOUS MODELS. AND THIS IS CRITICAL.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">THE GOOD NEWS IS OUR COMMUNITY UNDERSTANDS THAT, AND I THINK MANY OF YOU GOVERNMENTS WHO HAVE TALKED TO ME HAVE VOICED YOUR CONCERN WITH A CALIFORNIA SYSTEM OR COURT SYSTEM BECOMING OUR FIRST RECOURSE.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">AND THE THIRD POINT I WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU BEFORE I LEAVE IS NOT TO FORGET WHY WE'RE DOING ALL OF THIS. I THINK IT WAS VERY CLEAR WHEN ALL THESE GROUPS WERE CREATED THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A TRANSITION WORK. THE QUESTION WAS
ASKED WHEN THE U.S. GOVERNMENT IS NO LONGER IN ITS STEWARDSHIP ROLE AS THE BACKSTOP OF THE COMMUNITY, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO REPLACE THAT? THAT WAS THE QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED. AND, THEREFORE, AS THINGS GET PILED ON, THE TEST YOU SHOULD USE IS IS THIS
NECESSARY TO REPLACE THE BACKSTOP ROLE OF THE U.S. GOVERNMENT?</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">IF WE DON'T DO THAT, THEN WE WILL WATCH OUR TRANSITION SLIP AWAY, SOMETHING THAT I THINK WOULD BE A SHAME.</div>
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<div style="FONT-SIZE: 13px">WE WOULD LIKE ICANN TO BECOME AN INDEPENDENT MULTISTAKEHOLDER ORGANIZATION. THIS IS THE MOMENT.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 17 October 2015 at 16:19, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <span dir="ltr">
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<div>The Chehadé-Waffler at it again.</div>
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On 17 Oct 2015, at 15:32, Jordan Carter <<a href="mailto:jordan@internetnz.net.nz" target="_blank">jordan@internetnz.net.nz</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Those of you interested in our work will be fascinated to learn that ICANN's outgoing CEO Fadi Chehade is presenting his own personal interpretation right now at GAC:
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<div><a href="https://icann.adobeconnect.com/dub54-liffeya" target="_blank">https://icann.adobeconnect.com/dub54-liffeya</a></div>
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<div>Both on the work we have done (where the representation isn't accurate) and on the schedule of our future work (where according to him, we need to finish in 5 weeks).</div>
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<div>You may find it instructive to observe, or to read the transcripts.</div>
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<div>best</div>
<div>Jordan<br clear="all">
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