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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I agree with James. I
think it opens up a number of cans. <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2016-05-23 10:57, James M. Bladel
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Paul -</div>
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<div>Off the cuff, I have some concerns about Council going
further than official positions by the SGs/Cs. Most individuals
or organizations have some affiliation with the GNSO, and it
would be difficult to make a clear distinction. The risks of us
referencing one comment, while leaving out one from an
equivalent person or group (even if due to error) could be seen
as Council endorsement. </div>
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<div>Also, consider the scenario where there are significant
differences between the position of a commenter versus their
respective SG/C. If the RrSG comments in favor of chocolate
ice cream, but comments from GoDaddy favor vanilla, then by
including both the Council could be perceived as undermining the
consensus-building processes within that SG/C. In this case,
the IPC & NTIA comments are probably aligned, but absent an
analysis from Staff, we should be cautious about inserting
ourselves in to any position differences.</div>
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<div>I understand your intention to present a list that is as
comprehensive as possible, but I’m concerned that there’s no way
to do so in a fair an equitable manner, and especially without
creating precedent for future comments. But I’d welcome thoughts
from other Councilors on this point.</div>
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<div>Thanks—</div>
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<div>J.</div>
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<span style="font-weight:bold">From: </span>Paul McGrady <<a
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<span style="font-weight:bold">Date: </span>Monday, May 23,
2016 at 8:15 <br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span>'Marika Konings'
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
James Bladel <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>,
GNSO Council List <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span>RE: [council]
Proposed letter to the Drafting Team<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Thanks
Marika. I think we have to go more granular than just
the C’, SG’s etc. For example, INTA put in public
comments. They are a member of the IPC and a
therefore a member of the GNSO community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
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sans-serif;">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 23, 2016 7:59 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> James M. Bladel; Paul McGrady; <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Proposed letter to
the Drafting Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Bruce just answered question #1. With regards to
bullet 3:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Konings</span></b><span style="font-size:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:
</span></b><span style="color:black"><<a
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href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a></a>>
on behalf of "James M. Bladel" <<a
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href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a></a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Sunday 22 May 2016 at 13:35<br>
<b>To: </b>Paul McGrady <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a></a>>,
"<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Proposed letter to
the Drafting Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Hi Paul -<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;color:black">Thanks for
kicking this off. Generally, I’m good with this
letter. A few questions/comments:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt">Given the
compressed timeline, can we ask Staff to confirm
whether or not the Drafting Team will have an
opportunity to amend the proposed bylaws before
submitting to the Board? I’m assuming they
will, but…<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt">Should we also cc:
the Board and/or CCWG Co-Chairs? (hedge)<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt">With the Comment
Period now closed, could we task someone from
Policy Staff to assist Paul in gathering links
to GNSO comments?<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<span style="font-size:10.5pt">The Board is
meeting this week to consider the draft bylaws.
It is therefore imperative that we move quickly
to get this sent. Councilors, please send
edits/comments/concerns by EOD (Pacific) Monday
to ensure that this is posted overnight Tuesday.<o:p></o:p></span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:
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on behalf of Paul McGrady <<a
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<b>Date: </b>Saturday, May 21, 2016 at 6:01 <br>
<b>To: </b>GNSO Council List <<a
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<b>Subject: </b>[council] Proposed letter to
the Drafting Team<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Hi
all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">On
our last call, I volunteered t draft a short
letter from James to the Bylaws Drafting
Team. Here is the proposed body of that
letter to be kicked around the Council list:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">________<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Dear
Bylaws Drafting Team:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">The
GNSO Council thanks you for your efforts in
attempting to distill the instructions found
in the CCWG-Accountability Report into a
revised version of ICANN’s Bylaws. We note
that the draft Bylaws have generated
significant public comment from members of the
GNSO community. These include:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">[Paul
McGrady to pull these links out of the public
comment after it closes]<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">We
ask you to carefully review each of these
comments and give them serious consideration.
It is important that the revised Bylaws remain
faithful to the CCWG-Accountability Report on
which we, as a Council, were called upon to
vote in Marrakech. We are fully at your
disposal should you wish to consult us on any
issue raised in the comments generated by the
GNSO community.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Kind
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">James
Bladel<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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