<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I agree with James. There is no doubt that the legal protection issues for the Red Cross and Red Crescent etc are unique, very strong, and not the same as the IGOs. <div class="">But the council manages policy, it does not rule on substantive issues, and the legal basis is an example of the substantive issue that was thoroughly discussed by that WG. The ICRC may disagree with some of their decisions,and there is room for further discussion, but as a council we are limited in what we can do - we can only reconstitute the working group, the situation is not yet right for that, and that working group concerned IGO/INGO issues as well, and so as a council it is appropriate for us to consider them together. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">On substantive issues of law, they are very different cases. Procedurally however, they are linked, and council manages procedure. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The ICRC are a vital organisation with a very strong legal basis for some of the rights they want here. But they can be wrong in their opinion as to how those issues translate to the domain name policy space, and they absolutely can (and have been) wrong about how best to deal with ICANN, specifically GNSO, policy processes. Some of you will remember their contribution to the London GAC communique, which I certainly was not happy about. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">David</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 25 May 2016, at 11:17 AM, James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" class="">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Thanks Donna and Phil for contributing your thoughts to this thread.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">I agree with Phil (and the Red Cross) that the legal issues underlying these topics are distinctly different, and we should -not– include or reference the report from the advisors to the Curative Rights PDP. </div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">However, both the RC and IGO/INGO issues were unanimously approved as part of the same PDP by our predecessors in 2013, and both are on hold pending further action for the Board. As a result, I don’t think we, as a Council are linking them, and it’s appropriate for us to include them together in the same letter.</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;" class="">Thanks -</div><div style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; 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text-decoration: underline;" class="">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>, Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br class=""><span style="font-weight: bold;" class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span>[council] RE: Note from the Red Cross on the proposed GNSO Council letter to the ICANN Board<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:m="http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" class=""><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Hi Phil<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">The RySG does not dispute the legal basis for RC protections; however, we are very concerned that if the RC and IGO acronym issues are decoupled it may take even longer to resolve the IGO acronym issue. The Council is not causing the delay in resolving any of these outstanding issues—that delay is the result of the Board, or the NGPC, not making any progress on this issue in the last two or so years. My preference is to send the letter as drafted and decide on next steps after we have received a response from the Board.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I also have some reservations about the manner in which the RC is lobbying the Council as evidenced by their most recent communication: I think we need to be careful that this is not perceived by some as unfair treatment.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Donna<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class="">Donna Austin</span></b><b class=""><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">:</span></b><b class=""><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class=""></span></b><b class=""><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);" class="">Neustar, Inc.</span></b><b class=""><span lang="ES" style="font-size: 9pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);" class=""><br class=""></span></b><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: gray;" class="">Policy and Industry Affairs Manager<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);" class="">Cell:</span></b><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=""></span></b><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(125, 125, 125);" class="">+1.310.890.9655<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><b class=""><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(6, 134, 88);" class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: gray;" class=""><a href="mailto:donna.austin@neustar.biz" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">donna.austin@neustar.biz</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(125, 125, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(125, 125, 125);" class=""><hr size="1" width="100%" noshade="" align="left" style="color: rgb(150, 150, 150);" class=""></span></div></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 6.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(125, 125, 125);" class="">The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged information. 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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Phil Corwin<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, May 24, 2016 6:18 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[council] RE: Note from the Red Cross on the proposed GNSO Council letter to the ICANN Board<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">In view of this new letter from the Red Cross, I’d again urge that Council refrain from insisting that its issues be decided in tandem with the much broader IGO issues. If we have an opportunity to settle the red Cross matter on its own separate merits there’s no reason to hold it hostage to other matters.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Thanks for considering that POV.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: navy;" class="">Philip S. 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font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mary Wong<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Monday, May 23, 2016 10:47 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[council] Note from the Red Cross on the proposed GNSO Council letter to the ICANN Board<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Councilors,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Please see the message below that was sent by the Red Cross representatives yesterday. On behalf of the Council and the chairs, staff have acknowledged receipt of the note.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Thanks and cheers<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mary<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Mary Wong<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Senior Policy Director<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@icann.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Telephone: +1-603-5744889<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Salah Mathlouthi <<a href="mailto:smathlouthi@icrc.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">smathlouthi@icrc.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Date:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Monday, May 23, 2016 at 23:59<br class=""><b class="">To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@icann.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Nigel Hickson <<a href="mailto:nigel.hickson@icann.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nigel.hickson@icann.org</a>>, Charlotte Lindsey Curtet <<a href="mailto:clindsey@icrc.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">clindsey@icrc.org</a>>, Stephane Hankins <<a href="mailto:shankins@icrc.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">shankins@icrc.org</a>><br class=""><b class="">Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Draft GNSO Communication to the Board - Red Cross and Red Crescent protections<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Dear Mary,</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We hope this message finds you well.</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">(1) We have received a copy of the GNSO Council’s intended letter to ICANN’s Board seeking an update from the Board on next steps in regard to the dual issues of the protections of “Red Cross and Red Crescent identifiers” and “International Government organizations acronyms”, and suggesting that both sets of issues be addressed “in tandem”. We also note that the draft letter refers to the issues of the protections of the Red Cross and Red Crescent designations and names and to IGO acronyms in the singular (“as one”), and thus, in disregard of the distinct legal regimes and policy issues at stake.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We would like herewith to express our deep concern in this regard and to request, in line with the consistent positions and representations made by the Red Cross and Red Crescent organizations to the Board and to ICANN constituencies in the last years, including the GNSO, that the protections that are due to the red cross and red crescent designations and names require to be considered<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">in their own right and distinctiveness</i>.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">(2) As you will no doubt recall, and as reminded by the ICRC during its meeting with the</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">GNSO’s leadership members in Marrakesh and in its oral intervention during the GNSO<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Council session held on 14 April 2016, the protections due to the red cross and red crescent<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">designations and names find their source in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">- universally agreed and compulsory norms of international humanitarian law and in the domestic laws in force in multiple national jurisdictions; as well as in</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">- the distinct global public interest in ensuring respect and protection for these designations and names from improper or unauthorised use (including in situations of humanitarian emergencies in which the Red Cross and Red Crescent identifiers are at particular risk of fraudulent use on the Internet).</span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">This makes up a unique and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">sui generis</i><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>case for the permanent and unconditional reservation of these designations and names from registration as top and second domain names.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">This has been recognized by the Board and the NGPC in particular in its past determinations which have confirmed that the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections as distinct. This also conforms to the GAC’s consistent advice on this matter as outlined in recent GAC Communiqués and that address the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections in stand-alone and separate paragraphs.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">(3) While the initial GNSO recommendations regarding the protections of the Red Cross and Red Crescent designations and names may have indeed been developed in the context of a broader PDP (<i class="">“On the protection of IGO and INGO Identifiers in all gTLD’s”</i>), the question of the Red Cross and Red Crescent reservations have since remained separate from the IGO/INGO issues and must continue to merit a distinct treatment and consideration.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We are hence of the view that any suggestion that the Red Cross and Red Crescent protections could or should be<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><i class="">re-coupled</i>, or be addressed “in tandem”, with the protections called for in regard to IGO’s and their acronyms, would represent an undue retreat on ICANN’s most recent determinations, approaches and processes.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">We would like to thank the GNSO for its kind attention to the above concerns. We remain available to support and/or to attend any future consultations in this matter to be held, for instance, during ICANN 57 in Helsinki.</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Sincerely yours,</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Stéphane</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><br class=""> <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Stéphane J. Hankins</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Legal adviser</span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Cooperation and Coordination within the Movement</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">International Committee of the Red Cross</span><br class=""><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class="">Direct line: ++0041 22 730 24 19</span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><br class=""><span style="color: rgb(161, 0, 159);" class="">-----Transféré par Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC le 23/05/2016 16:31 -----</span></span><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">A : Stephane Hankins/DIR_GEN_MOUV_CHF/GVA/ICRC@ICRC<br class="">De : Daiana Barbancho Savage/CIM_DIR/GVA/ICRC<br class="">Date : 23/05/2016 14:03<br class="">Cc : Charlotte Lindsey Curtet/CIM_DIR/GVA/ICRC@ICRC<br class="">Objet : Letter<br class=""><br class=""><i class="">(See attached file: docxKk10U26N6N.docx)</i></span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width: 604px; border-collapse: collapse;"><tbody class=""><tr style="height: 6pt;" class=""><td width="100%" style="width: 603px; border: 1pt solid black; padding: 0in; height: 6pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifier</b><o:p class=""></o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">To</i>: "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Subject</i>: Re: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifier<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">From</i>: Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@xxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@xxxxxxxxx</a>><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Date</i>: Fri, 20 May 2016 04:22:37 +0000<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Accept-language</i>: en-US<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">List-id</i>: council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Sender</i>: owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Thread-index</i>: AQHRsk89sbH/K1NLyEimzyoyZLHunQ==<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">Thread-topic</i>: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifier<o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span class="">·<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <span class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span> <i class="">User-agent</i>: Microsoft-MacOutlook/f.16.0.160506<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; margin-bottom: 12pt;" class=""><span id="cid:image006.gif@01D1B5AC.869418B0"><image006.gif></span><br class=""><br class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Dear Councilors,<br class=""><br class="">Following further consultations between the Council chairs and staff on this<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">matter, the chairs would like to provide the attached letter for your final<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">review before it is sent to the ICANN Board. Essentially, this is the version<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">suggested by the RySG (per Donna’s earlier note, below) but with a single<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">revision at the end of the second paragraph, to clarify that the GNSO’s IGO and<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Red Cross recommendations originated in a single PDP.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">Please indicate any objections or concerns you may have with this proposed<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">final version of the letter to the Board by COB in your time zone on Monday 23<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: MingLiU;" class=""><br class=""></span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">May if at all possible, following which we will transmit the final letter to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">the Board shortly thereafter on behalf of Donna, Heather, James and the Council.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks and cheers<br class="">Mary<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">Mary Wong<br class="">Senior Policy Director<br class="">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br class="">Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:mary.wong@xxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mary.wong@xxxxxxxxx</a><br class="">Telephone: +1-603-5744889<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">From: <owner-council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of "Austin, Donna"<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@xxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">Donna.Austin@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>><br class="">Date: Saturday, May 14, 2016 at 05:44<br class="">To: "council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <council@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx><br class="">Subject: [council] Draft Letter to the Board on Red Cross Names & Identifier<br class=""><br class="">James, all<br class=""><br class="">Following on from the discussion on the Council call yesterday about next steps<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">in resolving the issue of permanent protection of certain Red Cross<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">identifiers, the RySG has requested that the letter to the Board be amended to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">request an update/resolution of the outstanding issues related to the permanent<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">protection of certain Red Cross identifiers and IGO acronyms. These issues have<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">not previously been decoupled and we are concerned that if the Council suggests<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">this as a path forward at this point it may be at the expense of resolving the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">remaining issues associated with IGO acronyms.<br class=""><br class="">Proposed amendments to the letter are provided for consideration.<br class=""><br class="">Thanks<br class=""><br class="">Donna<br class=""><br class="">Donna Austin: Neustar, Inc.<br class="">Policy and Industry Affairs Manager<br class="">Cell: +1.310.890.9655 Email:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">donna.austin@xxxxxxxxxxx<</span><a href="mailto:donna.austin@xxxxxxxxxxx" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">mailto:donna.austin@xxxxxxxxxxx</span></a><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">><br class=""><br class="">________________________________<br class="">The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">of the recipient(s) named above and may contain confidential and/or privileged<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">information. 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