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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Thanks Amr. The questions were noted as rhetorical for a reason and were designed to show that this process is seriously broken. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Donna, I saw you also wrote putting forward the “non-conspiracy” theory. As mentioned before, I agree with that but that doesn’t make the process unbroken nor does it help with how this will be perceived. If we had a good, open, and transparent process fairly applied to all and this was the outcome we reached, that would be just fine. However, that is not what we are dealing with.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Stephanie, thanks for your note. I think your ideas on process should be incorporated into an open and predictable process developed and agreed upon in advance of our next attempt to fill this role. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All, apologies for not responding to any follow up emails. If I thought my continuing to engage on this topic would help us do the right thing, I would keep at it. But, given that I seem to be the lone voice here, I bow to, but do not consent to, what appears to be a <i>fait accompli. </i> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Paul<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Amr Elsadr<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:08 AM<br><b>To:</b> Paul McGrady<br><b>Cc:</b> James M. Bladel; Susan Kawaguchi; GNSO Council List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] GAC Liaison - Update<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>There are simply too many statements you make in your last email that I disagree with, and you present them as pre-stablished facts that set the context for your (rhetorical) questions.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Specifically:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 8, 2016, at 4:58 PM, Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[SNIP]<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(the vacuum now being dealt with by the disclosure of the applicant that James has pre-disqualified</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t agree that there is anything to support what you say here — that James has pre-disqualified anyone.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>even though that applicant is more than qualified,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I haven’t read the EOI, but from your own description of Colin’s experience, my opinion is that saying he is “more than qualified” can be easily challenged. I, for one (and based on the limited information I have), don’t agree with your assertion.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>it appears that there is actually stomach for the notion that such pre-disqualification is not only proper but within the remit of the GNSO Council “leadership.”</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t know about pre-disqualification, but yes…, I was under the impression that the Council “leadership” may need to turn down certain applications that are felt to not satisfy the requirements of the position. By the way…, it was the Council “leadership” that made this appointment back when Mason had applied for the job. I don’t recall there being any concerns expressed about this at the time, although I may have forgotten.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> A few (rhetorical) follow on questions then:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>1.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> Assuming the inappropriate railroading of the IPC candidate continues, in any future round of EOIs, will the secret review and disqualification rest only with James or can we all secretly review and disqualify candidates?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>James is only one third of the Council “leadership”, Paul. Nothing here rested “only with James”.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>[SNIP]<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>3.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> <span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Any ideas on how the heck I explain this targeted exclusion to the IPC? As you can imagine, I am way over my skis with them by vouching prior to the vote for Chair of the Council that the IPC would be treated neutrally. This is a PR disaster.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t see why you believe that the IPC has been targeted for exclusion. Could you please explain why you believe this to be true? To me, it seems like the only exclusion (or more accurately; disqualification) made was for the individual applicant.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Having said all that, Paul, there are some points you make that I believe warrant discussion, and this is perhaps a discussion we should have had before this process began. At the beginning of your email you said:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I am simply amazed by this. Not only are we suggesting that we pretend there was some confidentiality around the EOI process, which there wasn’t, which gives cover for the vacuum in which we have been asked to support James’ proposal</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Later on, you asked — and I know you said the questions were rhetorical ;-):<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>2.</span><span style='font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Will the secret review and disqualification apply for all positions for which the GNSO Council calls for volunteers or just the GAC Liaison role? If not all, which roles will have a secret review and disqualification period?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><div style='margin-left:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='text-indent:-.25in'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If memory serves, when the GNSO Council announced a call for applications for GNSO reverse liaisons to the GAC the first time around (when Mason was first selected), the EOIs were not confidential — and there were several of them last time around. They were shared on the Council list, despite the Council “leadership” making the final decision.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This time, the process has changed to make the EOIs confidential. Like I said in an earlier email, I do not mind this. I believe that to publish them, the applicants should provide consent. The GNSO Council has several liaisons to groups that it charters. The differences between those liaisons and this one is probably that this liaison is to an AC (so obviously not chartered by the GNSO), but also that this liaison is provided travel support to participate in ICANN meetings.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Seems fair to me that we have a discussion about whether or not the EOIs should be confidential. Ideally before another application round in the fall?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Amr<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>