<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Thanks James. Great seeing you and everyone else this past week. </div><div><br></div><div>Just an FYI for those not participating in WS2-Jurisdiction, this ICANNxit idea has been pushed very hard by Parminder and others on the list. As we all know, the accountability reforms of WS1 are all predicated on California law, so this idea seems outside of the scope of WS2 since WS2 wasn't meant to dismantle WS1. Further complicating things, there is now a crowd in WS2-Jurisdiction pushing for the idea that ICANN should be "immune" from the courts; essentially the opposite of accountability. </div><div><br></div><div>Now for the commentary: I hope that if either of these bad ideas make their way into the final reports (however unlikely that such would occur), that the GNSO at least would stand in the way of adoption -- even if such a stand were against the tide of ICANN orthodoxy prevalent at the moment of voting.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Subject: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<br>
From: "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br>
Date: Wed, November 09, 2016 3:08 am<br>
To: GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
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</style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">Council colleagues –<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri">See below for a statement published on the CCWG-ACCT mailing list.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">Thank you,<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri;color:black">J.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Calibri"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black">From: </span> </b><span style="font-family:Calibri;color:black"><<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org">accountability-cross-community-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of parminder <<a href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net">parminder@itforchange.net</a>><br> <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 7:31 <br> <b>To: </b>CCWG Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> </div> <div><span style="font-family:Verdana">All</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div><span style="font-family:Verdana">I thought this may be relevant to those on this list. Regard, parminder</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> -------- Forwarded Message -------- <o:p></o:p></div> <table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>Subject: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">ICANN's US jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>Date: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">Wed, 9 Nov 2016 07:23:40 +0530<o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>From: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;">parminder <a target="_blank" href="mailto:parminder@itforchange.net"><parminder@itforchange.net></a><o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td nowrap="" valign="top" style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="font-size:12pt;text-align:right"><b>To: <o:p></o:p></b></div> </td> <td style="padding:0in 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><a target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org">governance@lists.igcaucus.org</a> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org"><governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a>, BestBitsList <a target="_blank" href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net"><bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>, Forum@Justnetcoalition. Org <a target="_blank" href="mailto:forum@justnetcoalition.org"><forum@justnetcoalition.org></a><o:p></o:p></div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><br> <br> All<br> <br> As you know, the issue of jurisdiction of ICANN is under consideration at ICANN's community process (in the accountability track where there is a sub group discussing this issue). ICANN is currently meeting in Hyderabad, India, from 3rd to 9th November. <br> <br> Today, on the last day of ICANN's Hyderabad meeting, the enclosed statement was issued by key Indian civil society organisations engaged with Internet governance issues, supported by two key global networks involved in this area. The statement expresses the urgent need for transiting ICANN from being under the jurisdiction of one country, presenting the rationale of why this is important to do. It also lists some possible options of doing so, towards beginning a serious action-oriented deliberation on this very important matter. Unlike what is often understood, the jurisdiction issue is not just a matter of sovereign prestige and self respect of the states but concerns vital matters impacting people's rights. This is especially so as the society gets more and more digitised in all areas.<br> <br> We welcome comments and feedback.<br> <br> The statement has been issued by the following Indian civil society organisations. <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://cis-india.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Centre for Internet and Society</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Bangalore </span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.itforchange.net/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">IT for Change</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Bangalore </span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_Software_Movement_of_India"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Free Software Movement of India</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, Hyderabad </span> <o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.knowledgecommons.in/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Society for Knowledge Commons</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://defindia.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Digital Empowerment Foundation</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://www.delhiscienceforum.net/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Delhi Science Forum</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span lang="EN-GB">Software Freedom Law Center India</span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="https://twnetwork.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Third World Network - India</span></a></span></u><span lang="EN-GB">, New Delhi</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">It is supported by the following global networks:<o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="https://www.apc.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Association For Progressive Communications</span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black">Just Net Coalition <br> </span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><br> </a><span style="font-size:13.5pt;line-height:120%">We will soon expand this effort to enlist more global support.</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;line-height:120%">Best, Parminder</span><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> </span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> </span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> </span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> <div class="western" style="margin-bottom:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><u><span style="font-size:24.0pt;line-height:120%;color:navy"><a target="_blank" href="http://justnetcoalition.org/"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:120%;color:black"><br> </span></a></span></u><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div>
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