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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Edward Morris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 14, 2016 4:56 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight; James M. Bladel; GNSO Council List; policy@paulmcgrady.com<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<em><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"">it seems as if the goal is to try again on this issue having not prevailed on it in WS1 which builds the accountability structures on California law. </span></em></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">If the subgroup lasts long enough, perhaps the issue of US jurisdiction will actually go away on it's own. :)</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Sans Unicode","sans-serif""><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Re: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<br>
From: Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br>
Date: Sat, November 12, 2016 2:29 pm<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>>, "James M.<br>
Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, GNSO Council List<br>
<<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">What is driving this?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Most of the discussions / arguments I’ve seen about jurisdiction stem from something specific, either a domain name or a website being taken offline or similar.
ICANN’s jurisdiction in such cases is irrelevant, as if it’s done by court order it’s being enacted by either the registrar or the registry.</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">Other arguments and discussions seem to stem from a misunderstanding of how ICANN, registries, registrars and other parts of the ecosystem interact.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">The statement seems to be conflating a lot of unrelated things and is really confusing, though I’m still a bit jetlagged, so I may have misunderstood some of
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<b>Date: </b>Friday 11 November 2016 at 13:54<br>
<b>To: </b>James Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Subject: [council] FW: [CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction<br>
From: "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">jbladel@godaddy.com</span></a>><br>
Date: Wed, November 09, 2016 3:08 am<br>
To: GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>></span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black">From:
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<b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 9, 2016 at 7:31<br>
<b>To: </b>CCWG Accountability <<a href="mailto:accountability-cross-community@icann.org" target="_blank">accountability-cross-community@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[CCWG-ACCT] Fwd: ICANN's US jurisdiction</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">I thought this may be relevant to those on this list. Regard, parminder</span><span style="color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:black">Wed, 9 Nov 2016 07:23:40 +0530</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:governance@lists.igcaucus.org" target="_blank"><governance@lists.igcaucus.org></a>, BestBitsList
<a href="mailto:bestbits@lists.bestbits.net" target="_blank"><bestbits@lists.bestbits.net></a>, Forum@Justnetcoalition. Org
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As you know, the issue of jurisdiction of ICANN is under consideration at ICANN's community process (in the accountability track where there is a sub group discussing this issue). ICANN is currently meeting in Hyderabad, India, from 3rd to 9th November.<br>
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Today, on the last day of ICANN's Hyderabad meeting, the enclosed statement was issued by key Indian civil society organisations engaged with Internet governance issues, supported by two key global networks involved in this area. The statement expresses the
urgent need for transiting ICANN from being under the jurisdiction of one country, presenting the rationale of why this is important to do. It also lists some possible options of doing so, towards beginning a serious action-oriented deliberation on this very
important matter. Unlike what is often understood, the jurisdiction issue is not just a matter of sovereign prestige and self respect of the states but concerns vital matters impacting people's rights. This is especially so as the society gets more and more
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