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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Hi all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Apologies for not recalling the status of this discussion. Do we have an action item to revisit this?
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Keith<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> owner-council@gnso.icann.org [mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>James M. Bladel<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 18, 2016 6:01 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Paul McGrady; 'Susan Kawaguchi'; 'GNSO Council List'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Next Steps: IAG Report, and WHOIS Conflicts with local law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Hi Paul –<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m open to postponing this work item, but if I recall from our 30 SEP meeting, we were going to use the opportunity in Hyderabad to catch up with some folks expected to be in attendance. This may no longer
be possible, give the late changes to the ICANN57 schedule.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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What do others think?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Thanks—<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">J.</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Paul McGrady <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 14:29 <br>
<b>To: </b>'Susan Kawaguchi' <<a href="mailto:susank@fb.com">susank@fb.com</a>>, "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] Next Steps: IAG Report, and WHOIS Conflicts with local law<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks James.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Under normal conditions, I would be happy to volunteer. However, your email mentions a call before the next ICANN meeting to kick off the work of the group. Given that this has been languishing for some
time, could we postpone the kickoff under after Hyderabad? There is just so very much to do to get ready to go, attend a 10 day meeting, and then return & recover that adding on something else, especially something which appears to be non-urgent, seems impractical.
Any chance we could do a kick off the 3<sup>rd</sup> week in November? If so, I’m happy to join in the fun.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Best,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Paul D. McGrady, Jr.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt">
<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Susan Kawaguchi<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, October 18, 2016 1:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> James M. Bladel <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>; GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] Next Steps: IAG Report, and WHOIS Conflicts with local law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I can participate in this small group.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 10:41 AM<br>
<b>To: </b>GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Next Steps: IAG Report, and WHOIS Conflicts with local law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thanks, Stephanie.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Council Colleagues: So far, the folks volunteering for a small group are Donna, Stephanie and myself. Perhaps we could encourage a few more folks to join? Especially those from the IPC/BC/ISPC?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Once our list is final, we can try to convene a prep call before ICANN.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">J.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black">Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, October 7, 2016 at 11:57 <br>
<b>To: </b>Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Next Steps: IAG Report, and WHOIS Conflicts with local law</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande"">Thanks Marika, you are absolutely correct, I was just looking for an explicit option spelled out there. And Yes James, happy to volunteer, wild horses couldn't keep me away....</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande"">cheers Stephanie</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-10-07 12:48, Marika Konings wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Stephanie, please see scenario and consequences #2:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt">The Council should specify why it is of the view that the proposed modification is not consistent. Furthermore the Council could consider whether<span style="color:black"> more work is required on the proposed
modification to ensure that it is consistent with the intent of the policy recommendations (for example by reconstituting the IAG or forming a new group) or whether the original policy recommendations are in need of review.</span></span></i><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">‘Whether the original policy recommendations are in need of review’ would imply a PDP.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Marika</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Marika Konings</span></b><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt">Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From: </span></b><span style="color:black"><a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org"><owner-council@gnso.icann.org></a> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin
<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 7 October 2016 at 10:34<br>
<b>To: </b>"James M. Bladel" <a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com"><jbladel@godaddy.com></a>, GNSO Council List
<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><council@gnso.icann.org></a><br>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande "">Thanks for this. I see no mention of my motion, which basically confirmed my position (and that of NCSG, whose submission missed the deadline) that the policy was fundamentally flawed. I recognize
noone wants another PDP but Council could also take the position that the policy needs to be revisited, and request a charter. Seems logical if it has never been used in a decade. Anyway, I would submit that such a document should mention the fact that there
were minority views in the IAG that the policy itself has flaws which demand a fix.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p>Stephanie Perrin<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On 2016-10-07 12:19, James M. Bladel wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Councilors –</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Having now considered --and withdrawn-- two separate motions on this topic, it is clear that we need to regroup, reassess, and consider our path(s) forward.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Per the discussion on our 30 SEP call, I would like to convene a group of interested Councilors to kick off discussions and present options. For context, please see the attached Overview document prepared
by Staff. This summary is intended to provide backgrounds, and kick start ideas for resolution, but by no means is it meant to serve as an exhaustive list.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I’m hopeful this group can work together to reconcile the diverse opinions on this issue, and come back to Council one or more motions that have sufficient support to pass.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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