<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>Thanks Donna. I have taken the proposed new language to the IPC list and hope to have feedback quickly.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Paul</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>
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Subject: UPDATE re Item 2: For your review - GNSO Review of GAC<br>
Communique Hyderabad<br>
From: "Austin, Donna" <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@neustar.biz">Donna.Austin@neustar.biz</a>><br>
Date: Wed, December 14, 2016 3:19 pm<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a>>, Marika<br>
Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>"<br>
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</style> <div class="WordSection1"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Paul, all<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Please accept the language below for consideration as potential replacement language provided below by Paul. This language supersedes an earlier email I sent to the list. I apologise for any confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Just to be clear, this language is relevant to Item 2 of the Council response to the GAC communique.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Proposed language from the RySG:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The GNSO Council observes that ICANN is only one party to its contracts; the others are registries or registrars. It is inappropriate for one party to a contract to unilaterally define standards for reporting enforcement. Contracted parties voluntarily have developed, and continue to develop, various operational practices that proactively address abuse in various forms.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">To replace the following language suggested by Paul:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Some contracted parties to ICANN have or are in the process of developing a number of “best practices” initiatives related to registry and registrar operations. ICANN is responsible for setting standards for abuse reporting and performance when determining compliance with contractual obligations.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">If the RySG language is acceptable, Paul’s response would read:<o:p></o:p></span></b></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">The GNSO Council would like to express concern that the list of questions set out in Annex 1 has been categorised as “advice”. In this context, the term “advice” ought to be given its ordinary dictionary meaning, and a request to the Board to provide various data and information does not constitute “GAC Advice”, as this term is used in the ICANN Bylaws. Since GAC Advice has a specific status and treatment under the under the ICANN Bylaws, precision of terminology is crucial to avoid any perception that there is an attempt to direct the Board, rather than making a request for information and attempting to impose a reasonable deadline for its provision. That said, the GNSO Council looks forward to reviewing ICANN’s responses to the questions listed in Annex 1 to the Communiqué. <span style="background:yellow;mso-highlight:yellow">The GNSO Council observes that ICANN is only one party to its contracts; the others are registries or registrars. It is inappropriate for one party to a contract to unilaterally define standards for reporting enforcement. Contracted parties voluntarily have developed, and continue to develop, various operational practices that proactively address abuse in various forms.</span> The issue of DNS Abuse Mitigation raised by the GAC may also be dealt with by the GNSO in GNSO PDP Working Groups, producing relevant Consensus Policy recommendations then duly adopted by the Board. Further, the issue of DNS Abuse Mitigation raised by the GAC is dealt with by the GNSO as the issue arises, whether it be various active and/or open projects on the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_meetings_projects-2Dlist-2D28nov16-2Den.pdf&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=OnENUeYwFCPLqmH6BhL_VfSwze9IjfPBwZtjrj6smAM&e=" target="_blank">Projects List</a>, or as part of GNSO <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_council_policy&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=DAh8dGjoP-HlunMGgxErthrt2L98OaFx7eNjhl28kT4&e=" target="_blank">Policy Activities</a>. <o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">I do want to reiterate a previous suggestion I had made in that I do believe it would be worthwhile to elevate the comments about the definition of GAC Advice to the letter of transmittal.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Donna<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div> <div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> <a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a> [<a href="mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org">mailto:owner-council@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b><a href="mailto:policy@paulmcgrady.com">policy@paulmcgrady.com</a><br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 12, 2016 12:11 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [council] For your review - GNSO Review of GAC Communique Hyderabad<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Hi All,<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The IPC has had a chance to consider the draft language for Section 2 and propose the following (heavily) edited draft response:<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">___________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">The GNSO Council would like to express concern that the list of questions set out in Annex 1 has been categorised as “advice”. </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">In this context, </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">the term “advice” ought to be given its ordinary dictionary meaning, and a request to the Board to provide various data and information does not </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">constitute “GAC Advice”, as this term is used in the ICANN Bylaws. Since GAC Advice </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">has a specific status and treatment under the under the ICANN Bylaws, precision of terminology is crucial to avoid any perception that there is an attempt to direct the Board, rather than making a request for information and attempting to impose a reasonable deadline for its provision. That said, t</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">he GNSO Council looks forward to reviewing ICANN’s responses to the questions listed in Annex 1 to the Communiqué. The issue of DNS Abuse Mitigation raised by the GAC may also be dealt with by the GNSO in GNSO PDP Working Groups, producing relevant Consensus Policy recommendations then duly adopted by the Board. Further, the issue of DNS Abuse Mitigation raised by the GAC is dealt with by the GNSO as the issue arises, whether it be various active and/or open projects on the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_meetings_projects-2Dlist-2D28nov16-2Den.pdf&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=OnENUeYwFCPLqmH6BhL_VfSwze9IjfPBwZtjrj6smAM&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">Projects List</span></a>, or as part of GNSO <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_council_policy&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=DAh8dGjoP-HlunMGgxErthrt2L98OaFx7eNjhl28kT4&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:windowtext">Policy Activities</span></a>. <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">___________________________<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">I'm very happy to discuss the rationale for these proposed changes. <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Best,<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Paul<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> </div> <blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:6.0pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" id="replyBlockquote"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">-------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: [council] For your review - GNSO Review of GAC Communique<br> Hyderabad<br> From: Marika Konings <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a>><br> Date: Thu, December 08, 2016 11:48 am<br> To: "<a target="_blank" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>" <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"><span style="color:windowtext">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>><o:p></o:p></span></div> <div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Dear All,</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Please find attached for your review the proposed GNSO Review of the GAC Communique. This draft has been developed by the small drafting team that was formed at ICANN57 consisting of Donna Austin, James Bladel, Heather Forrest, Phil Corwin, Michele Neylon, Paul McGrady and Carlos Guttierez. Please share any comments and/or input you may have with the mailing list. Consideration of this document is also on the agenda for the GNSO Council meeting on 15 December. </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Best regards,</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Marika</span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Marika Konings</span></i></b><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Senior Policy Director & Team Leader for the GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Email: <a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:#0563C1">marika.konings@icann.org</span></u></a> </span></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> </span></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Follow the GNSO via Twitter @ICANN_GNSO</span></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black">Find out more about the GNSO by taking our <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__learn.icann.org_courses_gnso&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=dNjsiuWO3xdzLW4v1BH88xcBii9uiGCBDGesqG9gB7I&e=" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:#0563C1">interactive courses</span></u></a> and visiting the <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__gnso.icann.org_sites_gnso.icann.org_files_gnso_presentations_policy-2Defforts.htm-23newcomers&d=DgMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=4A3LwUUER9_CePZ11QJsr56eryGQiPHEqv4TL7JH87w&m=b_o3-i0H2nKfE3BqYDYucWO1-3N1E4XVLXqlYXkqZ4Y&s=gtfl9Z6dWYQL3zTtk15ezDF16TnJlbluKDGvMZg5xaE&e=" target="_blank"><u><span style="color:#0563C1">GNSO Newcomer pages</span></u></a>. </span></i><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> <div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> </div>
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