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<p class="MsoNormal">Hi folks. Good discussion, and to pivot off of Michele’s last post…<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The vice-chairs and I raised some similar questions/reactions to the note from the SubPro co-chairs regarding WT5, and we asked Staff to convene a call with the co-chairs next week to discuss. The bottom line is that we expect WT5 will
operate as a subteam of the SubPro PDP, and that the PDP as a whole will be subject to the GNSO Operating Procedures, and the PDP Manual, etc. This is the basis for providing the PDP Co-Chairs with broad discretion in the organization of WT5. And if the
co-chairs anticipate that this could change, then we potentially see a larger oversight role for the GNSO Council in managing the process.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In any case, I hope all of that made sense, and it is good to see that so many folks are picking up on the same concerns, which indicates that these are exactly the questions that Donna, Heather and I should be raising next week. Expect
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, August 4, 2017 at 14:19 <br>
<b>To: </b>Phil Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com>, Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com>, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>, GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] FW: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG: Work Track 5 on Geographic Names at the Top-Level<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rather than jumping to conclusions about what they are suggesting, maybe it would be more prudent to ask that they clarify this?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Philip Corwin <psc@vlaw-dc.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 4 August 2017 at 19:29<br>
<b>To: </b>Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com>, Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] FW: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG: Work Track 5 on Geographic Names at the Top-Level</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">I concur that it would not be appropriate, and that the interpretation of the quoted language is not entirely clear absent further exploration.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> council-bounces@gnso.icann.org <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Darcy Southwell <darcy.southwell@endurance.com><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, August 4, 2017 2:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephanie Perrin; council@gnso.icann.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] FW: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG: Work Track 5 on Geographic Names at the Top-Level</span><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">
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<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:black">Are we supposed to interpret this to mean that WT5’s recommendations are not subject to the consensus of the entire PDP WG? I can understand if they want WT5 to operate “similarly to a cross community
working group” as it investigates issues and drafts recommendations. But it is not appropriate for that to happen within the PDP without the consensus process of the PDP.
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<p><span style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif;color:black">Darcy</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"><council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Stephanie Perrin <stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday, August 4, 2017 at 10:39 AM<br>
<b>To: </b><council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] FW: New gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP WG: Work Track 5 on Geographic Names at the Top-Level</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif;color:black">I agree that this is a worry. And at the risk of sounding pedantic, we don't need to start with "as such".
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">On 2017-08-03 08:27, Phil Corwin wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><span style="color:black">In regard to this:</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><span style="color:black">"As such, we are strongly recommending that the leaders of WT5 operate WT5 similarly to a cross community working group, ensuring that each SO and AC participate equally to achieve consensus on any recommendations proposed by the Work Track."</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">While recognizing that the structure proposed by the co-chairs will have the final decisions on Geo name recommendations made by the full PDP WG, and fully understanding the internal ICANN political dynamics surrounding this issue, I nonetheless believe we should have some internal discussion within Council, with appropriate staff input, on whether this proposed CCWG within a PDP structure is consistent with applicable GNSO rules regarding the operation of PDP WGs. I think we all need to be clear about whether or not a precedent is being set that dilutes GNSO primacy on gTLD policy matters. </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">Thanks for your consideration of this comment. </span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">On Aug 2, 2017, at 11:56 AM, James M. Bladel <a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com"><jbladel@godaddy.com></a> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre><span style="color:black">As such, we are strongly recommending that the leaders of WT5 operate WT5 similarly to a cross community working group, ensuring that each SO and AC participate equally to achieve consensus on any recommendations proposed by the Work Track.</span><o:p></o:p></pre>
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