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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">All<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">As one of those who drafted the comments with Tatiana I am happy to stand over them, however I fully accept what Donna is saying.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">So maybe the path forward is to do the following:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">1 – a submission from the GNSO Council taking into consideration Donna’s suggestions, without getting into the quagmire of some of the programs. This would keep within the scope of the
GNSO Council’s views on this hopefully.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">2 – Those of us who feel strongly that comments should be submitted regarding certain aspects of the travel support program do so separately ie. not as a submission by Council, but as
community members who wish to express their opinion. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Of course there is also the option of submissions via our respective stakeholder groups etc., though I’m not sure if that will really work for everyone.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Just a suggestion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Tatiana Tropina <tatiana.tropina@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday 18 November 2017 at 13:04<br>
<b>To: </b>Carlos Raul Gutierrez <crg@isoc-cr.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>GNSO Council List <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] Community travel support consultation - draft of proposed response<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a name="_MailOriginalBody">Hi Carlos and all, <o:p></o:p></a></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Thanks a lot for your comments. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">if we follow your logic it means that only those who are responsible for the fellowship and NextGen programs are able to comment on its effectiveness, although fellowship is supposed to be beneficial
for the entire community and should be assessed by the community. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I asked on the GNSO call when the questionnaire was presented why it missed questions about the fellowship and NextGen (as these programs have a large share in the ICANN travel budget) and whether
this would be added at the later stage. I was told that we can add our comments on this at the end of the questionnaire as general remarks. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I believe there are a lot of concerns about these programs. I see that we have no consensus as to whether we can comment on this, but I do think it's worth to raise these concerns and that we
as a GNSO council are in a position to do so. This is what "general remarks" section is for, in my opinion.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">So I am apparently with the drafting team and with Erika and Julf here that instead of deleting the paragraph about these programs, we might even add more there, e.g. highlight that they are
not ICANN focused enough. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Warm regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Tanya <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On 18 November 2017 at 13:32, Carlos Raul Gutierrez <</span><a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">crg@isoc-cr.org</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">I have read the questionnaire again. I think that the questionnaire is asking questions about our own SO (only). <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">While I think the comment is interesting, I do agree with Donna that is falls outside of the Questionnaires realm.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">So in good ICANN Style, If somebody wants to write a high level "rationale" about ICANN travel support policy, it make sense to add it in the email remitting the GNSO answers to the questionnaire. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">But in my view, it does not answer any of the questions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">My two cents<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:03 AM, Johan Helsingius <</span><a href="mailto:julf@julf.com" target="_blank"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">julf@julf.com</span><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody"></span></a><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody">Erika,<br>
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> How about mentioning that there's concern that the Fellowship Program is<br>
> not sufficiently focusing on ICANN issues? I made a recommendation<br>
> below. If you don't like it, change it or don't include it. Both is fine<br>
> with me. <br>
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I think it is a good addition.<br>
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