<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I never proposed to add MY personal experience, but to share them with the Council if they were needed. <br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 1 Feb 2018, at 17:05, Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">I agree. I do not think it is helpful to add personal anecdotes to this letter (or I could share some healthy counter perspectives to Martin's views), but given the programme's sizeable cost and ICANN's stabilising budget, I think we would be remiss if we did not comment broadly on the need to measure the effectiveness of the  fellowship programme  in terms of bringing active participants into the ICANN community and onto the GNSO Council. <br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">— Ayden <br class=""></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br class=""></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">-------- Original Message --------<br class=""></div><div class="">On 1 February 2018 7:49 PM, Tatiana Tropina <<a href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com" class="">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">I would go with Marie's suggestion - why don't we submit several points and keep it high level. Michele's suggestions are important and it would be good if we make the point. <br class=""></div><div class="">SGs can submit their comments re: experience and capacity building. But as we are calling for fiscal prudence, I think it's important to make a short and concise comment. <br class=""></div><div class="">Tanya <br class=""></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="">On 1 February 2018 at 11:44, Marie Pattullo <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be" class="">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-GB" class=""><div class="m_8725319423305256684WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Your way forward seems logical to me Heather; if Council does want to comment separately then a high-level shout out of Michele’s 2
 points (budget cuts & KPIs to ensure that there is real ROI) would make sense, and fit within our overall good governance/stewardship goal.<u class=""></u></span></span></span><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Marie  <u class=""></u></span></span></span><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></span></span></span><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></span></b><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> council [mailto:<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" class="">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr class="">icann.org</a>] <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br class=""> <b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, February 1, 2018 8:39 PM<span class=""><br class=""> <b class="">To:</b> Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br class=""> <b class="">Cc:</b> GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br class=""> </span><b class="">Subject:</b> Re: [council] Fwd: [So-ac-sg-cleaders] ICANN Fellowship Program Community Consultation<u class=""></u></span></span></p><div class=""><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Rafik, Ayden, Martin, all,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"> I understood the interventions as we wrapped up Donna's review of the "evil spreadsheet" as that, in view of the tremendous volume of work we now have on our collective plates as Council (liaison expectation documentations, refilling liaison
 roles, White Paper on PDP incremental improvements, ICANN61 planning), we would do well to leave the comment opportunity to SG/Cs, and that would also give the individual SG/Cs room to leverage the specific and individualised experience with Fellows in their
 communities.  <span class="highlight" style="background-color:white"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(34, 34, 34)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif">  If I have misunderstood and there's a clear need for Council itself to make a statement, I'll encourage any and all to jump in here and say so.</span></span></span> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Heather<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" class="">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><br class=""></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Hi Heather,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">if there is support within the council to respond to this comment since some points were made before with regard to budget, I will be happy to lead the effort.<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Rafik<u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">2018-02-02 4:15 GMT+09:00 Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" class="">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>:<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Council colleagues,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">I recall Michele Neylon making reference to the Fellowship review during our 3 days together. Please find here documentation about that process.<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal">Heather <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class=""></p><div class="">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br class=""></div><div class="">From: <b class="">David Olive</b> <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" class="">david.olive@icann.org</a>><br class=""></div><div class="">Date: Wed, Jan 31, 2018 at 8:15 AM<br class=""></div><div class="">Subject: [So-ac-sg-cleaders] ICANN Fellowship Program Community Consultation<br class=""></div><div class="">To: "<a href="mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org" class="">so-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:so-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org" class="">so-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org</a>><br class=""></div><div class="">Cc: Sally Costerton <<a href="mailto:sally.costerton@icann.org" class="">sally.costerton@icann.org</a>>, Ergys Ramaj <<a href="mailto:ergys.ramaj@icann.org" class="">ergys.ramaj@icann.org</a>><br class=""></div><div class=""><u class=""></u><br class=""></div><p class=""><br class=""></p><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><br class=""></p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><u class=""></u><br class=""></div><p class=""><br class=""></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Dear Community Leaders: </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><br class=""></p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><u class=""></u><br class=""></div><p class=""><br class=""></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt" class=""><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">We’re launching a community-wide consultation on the Fellowship Program to help inform its future direction. </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">The attached paper provides an overview of the program, including a breakdown of the data available on the Fellows, a questionnaire, and other details
 about the consultation process. </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">We anticipate that there will be interest in further discussing this process and our team will be available to speak with community groups about the
 current Fellowship Program and the questionnaire at ICANN61 or remotely. Questions about the program and responses to the questionnaire should be sent to <a href="mailto:fellowshipconsultation@icann.org" class="">fellowshipconsultation@icann.<wbr class="">org</a> by 30 March 2018. </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Grateful if you could share this informationso that each community group is aware of and has the opportunity to participate in the consultation. </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Best, <br class=""> <br class=""> Ergys Ramaj<br class=""> Sr. Director, Public Responsibility Support, ICANN </span><u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span><u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class=""></p><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class=""></div><div class="">So-ac-sg-cleaders mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="mailto:So-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org" class="">So-ac-sg-cleaders@icann.org</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/so-ac-sg-cleaders" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/so-ac-sg-cleaders</a><u class=""></u><br class=""></div><p class=""><br class=""></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br class=""></p><div class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class=""></div><div class="">council mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/council</a><u class=""></u><br class=""></div><p class=""><br class=""></p></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u><br class=""></p></div></div></div></div></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">______________________________<wbr class="">_________________<br class=""></div><div class="">council mailing list<br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr class="">listinfo/council</a><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">council mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br class="">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>