<div dir="ltr">Hello All, <div><br></div><div>I do not support suspending the RDS RT.  We are reviewing how the recommendations of the first RT were implemented,  impact of those recommendations and any new policies that have been created and or implemented since then.  We are NOT reviewing how GDPR impacts WHOIS.  To truly do that the RDS RT would have to wait several years since everything is a moving target. </div><div><br></div><div>We have plenty to look at that may not be impacted by GDPR.  If we suspend this RT then we lose one of the major tools the community has in accountability with the transition. </div><div><br></div><div>My earlier comments were really making the point that the new responsibilities the IANA transition has given the SO/AC's need to be understood and acted upon.  It is a work in progress and with time I think we will have the kinks worked out. </div><div><br></div><div>Michele - Any one can be an observer to the RT. </div><div><br></div><div>Best regards, </div><div><br></div><div>Susan </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 22, 2018 at 1:26 PM, Anthony Harris <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar" target="_blank">harris@cabase.org.ar</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="ES" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-3027618863585829188WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I support Pam’s suggestion.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tony Harris<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><table class="m_-3027618863585829188MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="10" cellpadding="0" width="100%" style="width:100.0%;border:none;border-top:solid #a2c3e3 2.25pt"><tbody><tr><td colspan="2" valign="top" style="border:none;border-top:solid #a2c3e3 2.25pt;padding:11.25pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"></td></tr><tr><td width="200" valign="top" style="width:150.0pt;border:none;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal" align="right" style="text-align:right"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><img width="200" height="163" id="m_-3027618863585829188Imagen_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01D3C202.DF1D7850" alt="Logo"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td valign="top" style="border:none;padding:7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt 7.5pt"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#05233d">Antonio Harris</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br></span><i><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#90a7b5">Director Ejecutivo</span></i><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#05233d">Cámara Argentina de Internet</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#416886">Suipacha 128 - 3 "F"</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"> </span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#416886">- Tel: (5411) 5263-7456</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br></span><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1b4260"><a href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099cc;text-decoration:none">harris@cabase.org.ar</span></a> · <a href="http://www.cabase.org.ar" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099cc;text-decoration:none">www.<wbr>cabase.org.ar</span></a></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p><table class="m_-3027618863585829188MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding:3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt 3.75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><a href="http://www.facebook.com/CabaseAr/" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099cc;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="24" height="24" id="m_-3027618863585829188Imagen_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.png@01D3C202.DF1D7850" alt="facebook"></span></a><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/CabaseAr" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099cc;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="24" height="24" id="m_-3027618863585829188Imagen_x0020_3" src="cid:image003.png@01D3C202.DF1D7850" alt="twitter"></span></a><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><a href="http://www.linkedin.com/company/562172?trk=tyah&trkInfo=clickedVertical%3Acompany%2CclickedEntityId%3A562172%2Cidx%3A2-1-2%2CtarId%3A1454513596509%2Ctas%3Acabase" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0099cc;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="24" height="24" id="m_-3027618863585829188Imagen_x0020_4" src="cid:image004.png@01D3C202.DF1D7850" alt="linkedIn"></span></a><span style="color:#1f497d"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><td colspan="2" valign="top" style="border:none;border-top:solid #dbeae7 1.5pt;padding:11.25pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#90a7b5"><img border="0" width="14" height="14" id="m_-3027618863585829188Imagen_x0020_5" src="cid:image005.gif@01D3C202.DF1D7850" alt="eco"> No me imprimas si no es necesario. Protejamos el medio ambiente</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> council [mailto:<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a>] <b>En nombre de </b>PAMELA LITTLE<br><b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018 0:55<br><b>Para:</b> Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List; Austin, Donna<br><b>Asunto:</b> Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2<u></u><u></u></span></p><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">In addition to bandwidth issue<i> </i>and in light of<i> </i>the discussions around ICANN budget and GDPR at ICANN61, perhaps the community should consider a deferral/pause of this review.  </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Also, see below excerpt of Goran's latest blog </span><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>news/blog/budget-discussions-<wbr>at-icann61</a>:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"...and for the RDS Review, there is still significant work remaining to address the impacts of the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) on the WHOIS system. Delaying either of these reviews would save many hours of volunteer time. Additionally, and more broadly, addressing the timing of reviews, and approach, will contribute to discussing how to make future reviews more efficient and more relevant. Deferring a review that will be impacted by current Policy Development Processes or other outside factors, could have significant savings on productivity and cost."</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Kind regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Pam</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sender:Austin, Donna via council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sent at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">To:Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>; GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>: [<span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2</span><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Heather, Susan</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Where does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms of adequate membership? I know Susan has raised concerns previously that there isn’t enough people to do the work. </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is it possible for the GNSO to recommend additional candidates to fill the vacancies left by the ccNSO’s decision not to appoint volunteers?</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Donna</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif""> council [<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [council] <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>: [<span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Council colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Please note the ccNSO's affirmed position on RDS/WHOIS2 RT.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Heather<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>From: <b>Katrina Sataki</b> <<a href="mailto:katrina@nic.lv" target="_blank">katrina@nic.lv</a>><br>Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM<br>Subject: [<span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2<br>To: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>Cc: <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Goran</span> <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Marby</span> <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" target="_blank">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>, Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris.disspain@board.icann.org" target="_blank">chris.disspain@board.icann.<wbr>org</a>>, <a href="mailto:mike.silber@board.icann.org" target="_blank">mike.silber@board.icann.org</a>, SOAC Chairs <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>><u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">7 March 2018<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">To: Alan Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS 2 Review Team, Chair<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">CC: Chris Disspain, Mike <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Silber</span>, <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Göran</span> <span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">Marby</span>, Chairs of ALAC, ASO, GAC, GNSO, SSAC, RSAC  <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Alan,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">In May 2017, we informed the ICANN Board of Directors that the ccNSO did not find itself in a position to nominate candidates for the RDS/ WHOIS2 Review Team, and deferred participation in this specific review.  <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">On 18 January 2018, the ccNSO Council again discussed its participation in the review. Following this discussion, by 16 February 2018, the ccNSO Council decided not to participate in the RDS/WHOIS2 specific review. <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The ccNSO Council thanks the volunteers who sought endorsement of the ccNSO.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Katrina Sataki,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Chair of the ccNSO  <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br><span class="m_-3027618863585829188spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs mailing list<br><a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a><br><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_soac-2Dchairs&d=DwMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=z_9KlnGUQfzfjAPK60pwOGQ2z1_9dnUTx9nfWFZ0teA&s=bckZA-Th5eFVMWmo4Yk61megNGgOUiJTbBHZaB-WcDg&e=" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/soac-chairs</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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