<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks, Pam, that was corrected.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-07 9:35 GMT+09:00 Pam Little <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com" target="_blank">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="m_8225290479495632733__aliyun_email_body_block"><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000"><span style="color:#000000;font-family:Tahoma,Arial;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;float:none;display:inline">A typo at Q10 : </span><span style="margin:.0px;padding:.0px;border:.0px;outline:.0px;color:#000000;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;font-size:15.0px;line-height:17.2px;font-family:Arial">"The program is targetted to bring new, engaged diverse members to participate in the community, and this is a goal that the GNSO Council </span><span style="margin:.0px;padding:.0px;border:.0px;outline:.0px;color:#000000;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:line-through;font-size:15.0px;line-height:17.2px;font-family:Arial">hearily</span><span style="margin:.0px;padding:.0px;border:.0px;outline:.0px;color:#000000;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;font-size:15.0px;line-height:17.2px;font-family:Arial"><span style="margin:.0px;padding:.0px;border:.0px;outline:.0px;line-height:16.1px;font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#ff0000">heartily</span><span style="margin:.0px;padding:.0px;border:.0px;outline:.0px;font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px"> </span>endors<wbr>es." </span></span></div><div style="clear:both"><br></div><div style="clear:both">Thank you to all who worked on the response.</div><div style="clear:both"><br></div><div style="clear:both">Kind regards,</div><div style="clear:both"><br></div><div style="clear:both">Pam</div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000"><br></span></div><blockquote style="margin-right:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000">------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------</span></div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000">Sender:Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span></div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000">Sent at:2018 Apr 7 (Sat) 07:50</span></div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000">To:Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span></div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000"><a href="mailto:Cc%3Acouncil@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">Cc:council@gnso.icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></div><div><div class="h5"><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000">Subject:Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: fellowship questionnaire response</span></div><div style="clear:both"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000"><br></span></div><div><div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">please find attached the latest version of the comment. The edits from Stephanie were accepted and the mention of anecdotal evidence was removed by Marie comment.</div><div class="gmail_extra">if there is no objection, I think the comment is ready to go.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I also support Donna idea to have a small team to meet fellowship program managers and will be happy to join the team.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best Regards,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-07 6:36 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>>:<br>
<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<p><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Yes my apologies it
was sloppily worded...it is a fact, but we know it not because
we measured it, but anecdotally. Not all anecdotes are fake
news (sorry I could not resist):-)</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande">I would be happy to
meet with the fellowship team and discuss, I agree that it is
far from comfortable casting stones from afar. We are trying
to help improve things.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Stephanie</span><br>
</p>
<div class="m_8225290479495632733m_4697800775064587078moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-04-06 12:40, Austin, Donna
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi
Marie, I believe you are correct that it is indeed a fact.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
also fully support Stephanie’s suggest edits. Stephanie also
raises some really good points about attracting people with
specific skills, I certainly agree that a couple of retired
judges could be an interesting addition to the ICANN mix.
Over time the NomCom has come to understand that Board
members not only need to know about ICANN, but that the
Board would be well-served by people with specific expertise
not dissimilar from some that Stephanie suggests for the
Fellowship program. I think it makes perfect sense to
rethink the program and target specific expertise.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Given
the considerable discussion this topic has generated on the
Council list, I wonder if it would make sense for a small
group of council volunteers with an interest in this topic
to offer to meet with Sally, Siranush and Deborah to cover
some of our concerns and see how we can assist in reshaping
the program/s—as I believe that is part of the intent of
this survey. I think there would be more value in doing this
than just responding to the survey and casting stones from
afar. I’d be willing to be part of this effort.
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
again to Rafik for working through the myriad of different
opinions to come up with a good Council response.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Donna<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">
council [<a class="m_8225290479495632733m_4697800775064587078moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Marie Pattullo<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 06, 2018 4:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Stephanie Perrin
<a class="m_8225290479495632733m_4697800775064587078moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"><stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca></a>;
<a class="m_8225290479495632733m_4697800775064587078moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: fellowship
questionnaire response<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks to all for the work on this; one small
point under Q2 – “We note<span style="background-color:yellow">, based on
anecdotal evidence</span>, that for example, the GNSO
council currently has two members who benefitted from the
fellowship program...” – it’s not anecdotal, it’s a fact –
no?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Best<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Marie<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:windowtext">
council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.<wbr>org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Stephanie Perrin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 6, 2018 9:15 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Re: fellowship
questionnaire response<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
<p>I apologize for
offering so many edits at this point in the process, I
started out intending to merely fix a couple of gramaticals
but was struck with our fundamental problem here: the need
to be positive, as Donna pointed out, yet insist on some
critical thinking and analysis about the program, as Ayden
has stressed on a number of occasions. We agree we need
metrics; I think we might wish to sharpen up the actual
goals of the program as well but there is not a question
there which really offers that opportunity to comment.
Regular audits and program review seem to be required in my
view, but it seemed a bit severe to say that.<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>I was struck by the
absence of fellows in the working group meetings which I
participated in in Puerto Rico. It seems that the fellows
are meeting in separate rooms, away from the main stream of
activity. This strikes me as odd. We should encourage
greater immersion in our activities in my view, and provide
mentorship. I have also proposed to Chris Mondini and his
team that we really need a "Zoomer" stream in our outreach
efforts (referring to a Canadian seniors magazine and range
of activities targeted at active retirees) to attract folks
with time available, and deeper experience that might be
useful at ICANN (e.g. accounting, ethics, program review,
conflict resolution, foundation work (think auction proceeds
not concrete) etc.). It is great to get young people but a
couple of retired judges might be really handy too.....:-)<u></u><u></u></p>
<p>Stephanie Perrin<u></u><u></u></p>
<p><u></u> <u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 2018-04-06 01:52,
Rafik Dammak wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Donna,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the
comments. I added the 2 suggestions to the attached
document. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2018-04-06 14:41
GMT+09:00 Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Hi
Rafik</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
agree with your first suggestion.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">On
Q16, could we keep the response as simple as:
“Some members of Council have a good
understanding of the differences, while others
do not."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Donna</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
council [mailto:<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rafik Dammak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 05, 2018 10:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [council]
fellowship questionnaire response</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
for the comments and input<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">for
the first suggestion, I think we can
keep it simple as suggested under Q #2:"<span style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#1f497d;background-color:white">For
example, the GNSO council currently
has two members who benefitted from
the fellowship program, while we are
not inferring any causation</span>" <br>
that is factual and neutral and doesn't
embed any judgment.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">For
Q #16, I don't see there is support for
the options available and taking into
account the proposals: "<span style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#1f497d;background-color:white">Council believes
there is a risk of potential overlap
between the 2 programs. We would like
to seek clarification regarding
the number of </span><span style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">recipients
who benefited from both programs to be
used as a metric to monitor the
overlap and avoid it.</span>"<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">to
highlight that need more info about this
overlap and indicating that should be
avoided.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">hope
those are acceptable.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2018-04-06
6:35 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">In
principle I have no objection to
the Council noting that two
current Councillors are fellowship
alumni, however I do not want us
to over-inflate the value of the
fellowship programme. Is it an
anomaly or fluke that two
fellowship alumni are currently
Councillors, has this been a
typical trend for several years
now, or is this simply a sign of
the maturity of the programme that
with the passage of time
participants are going on into
more and more leadership
positions? I don't know the answer
to this - and if no one on the
list does either, perhaps we
should condition our statement by
noting that correlation does not
necessarily imply
causation... Simply being a
Councillor does not, in my
opinion, necessarily provide
evidence for the success of the
fellowship programme. There are
all different kinds of
Councillors; some provide more
valuable inputs than others, and
for the fellowship programme to be
held up as some kind of success
story, we need a way of measuring
the performance of our Councillors
so that we can compare those who
have been fellows with those who
have entered ICANN through other
avenues. Of course we should not
go down that rabbit hole in this
comment; but all the same, I do
not want us to oversell the
outcomes of the fellowship
programme. Thank you.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Regarding
question 16, I have observed a
disturbing trend whereby one
participates in the NextGen
programme, then serves
subsequently as a NextGen
ambassador, and then becomes a
fellow three times, a fellow coach
another three times (yes, fellows
coach themselves), then a senior
fellow coach three times, and in
theory, they could then become a
booth lead. I say 'in theory'
because while I am aware of
fellows who have exhausted that
programme, been coaches and senior
coaches, and gone on to become
booth leads, I do not know of any
NextGen alumni who have done this.
But I think it would be possible.
The NextGen and fellowship
programmes are meant to be
separate and distinct. I find it
very problematic that there is an
overlap of participants between
the two tracks, and so I do wonder
if they could be amalgamated into
the one programme.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best
wishes,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Ayden
Férdeline <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
Original Message
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">On
5 April 2018 4:55 PM, <<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Agree,
(it’s useful to be
sometimes.); the text
makes some good points
in that respect.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Philippe</span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">
Michele Neylon -
Blacknight [mailto:<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a><wbr>]
</span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Thursday, April 05,
2018 4:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
FOUQUART Philippe
IMT/OLN; Council
GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [council]
fellowship
questionnaire
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:
</b>council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.<wbr>org</a>>
on behalf of "<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>"
<<a href="mailto:philippe.fouquart@orange.com" target="_blank">philippe.fouquart@orange.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:
</b>Thursday 5 April
2018 at 15:40<br>
<b>To:
</b>Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:
</b>Re: [council]
fellowship questionnaire
response<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Colleagues,</span><a href="#m_8225290479495632733_this" name="m_8225290479495632733_m_4697800775064587078_m_6782526214916466572_m_-165966575242115"></a><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Thanks
very much to the editing
team, I think this is a
balanced and most
helpful input to the
“consultation”. As an
aside, I noted during
our San Juan meeting
that the ISPCP developed
an answer and it’s quite
consistent with what we
have here.
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I
have two comments.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<ol start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d">I
also think we should
include Donna’s
comment re. Council
having fellowship
alumni in its
current/past
membership. GNSO
constituencies are
likely to note this in
their response; it
would be odd for
Council itself not to.
Maybe under Question
2. just say something
factual like “For
example, the GNSO
council currently has
two members who
benefitted from the
fellowship program”.
(side comment: 4 has “</span>While
there has been some
evidence of former fellows
becoming GNSO
Councillors”,
<span style="color:#1f497d">I’m
not sure about the
“evidence”: either
they have been
councilors or they
haven’t, but maybe
that’s just my
English…:) </span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ol>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<ol start="2" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d">Regarding
Question #16, if my
reading of the
criteria is correct,
the potential overlap
between fellowship and
NextGen@ICANN is the
extent to which
Fellowship is granted
to under 30
under/postgrad/PhD
students (who
may/should fall under
NextGen@ICANN).
</span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ol>
<ul>
<li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d">If
that number is zero
then there can be no
overlap, the two
things serve separate
audiences (maybe
there’s a discussion
to have as to whether
the audience is
relevant to ICANN’s
work but that wasn’t
the question), </span><u></u><u></u></li>
<li class="MsoNormal">
<span style="color:#1f497d">if
that number is high
however, the potential
overlap is
significant, given
that the expected
inputs from those two
groups of participants
may indeed overlap
according to the
programs. </span><u></u><u></u></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">I
haven’t got the figures
in that respect and
maybe seeking
clarification as to the
number of fellowship
recipients who might
have qualified for
nextgen would be useful
or something to point
out as a “metric” to
monitor moving forward.
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d">Philippe
</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">
council [</span><a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</span></a><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Rafik
Dammak</span><span style="font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Thursday, April 05, 2018
4:33 AM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Austin, Donna<br>
<b>Cc:</b>
Council GNSO<br>
<b>Subject:</b>
Re: [council] [EXTERNAL]
fellowship questionnaire
response</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi Donna,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks
for the comment, I
think we can add that
acknowledgment if you
have a text ready.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">we still
have the Question #16
to resolve with the 2
options available.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">as a
reminder, I think the
deadline for
submitting is Friday
6th April.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">2018-04-03
9:32 GMT+09:00
Austin, Donna <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks
Rafik and the
small team who
worked on this
response for
the Council.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
appreciate the
narrow focus
on PDPs
because that
is area of
responsibility
for the
council and
the need for
meaningful
metrics;
however, I
think it might
also be
helpful to
acknowledge
that the
Council has
been
well-served by
the Fellowship
Program by way
of a number of
our Councilors
coming to us
via the
program, for
example our
current
councilors,
Martin and
Arsene. I
don’t see any
downside to
acknowledging
the value of
the program
from this
perspective.</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Donna</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">
council
[mailto:</span><a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">]
<b>On Behalf
Of </b>Rafik
Dammak</span><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Sent:</b>
Monday, April
02, 2018 4:27
PM<br>
<b>To:</b>
Council GNSO
<</span><a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">></span><span style="font-size:15.0px;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br>
<b>Subject:</b>
[EXTERNAL]
[council]
fellowship
questionnaire
response</span><u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Hi all,<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Please find
attached the
latest version
of the draft
response to
the fellowship
questionnaire.
It went
through
several
revisions
based on
previous
council comments
and discussion
within the
small team. We
are looking
forward your
input
regarding the
overall draft
to be endorsed
as council
comment and
making changes
as needed. <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best,<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">Rafik<u></u><u></u></p>
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