<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 24 May 2018, at 15:48, Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com" class="">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Hi Keith, <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">It appears to me that all policy is within the picket fence so will be interesting to see a document with your view point on what the RySG views as outside the picket fence. </div></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>Susan,</div><div><br class=""></div><div>The RySG is working on that, but the number of those are small (around 10%) and those clauses are the ones with less interest of other constituencies. I understand you will reserve judgement to when you see it, but I'm confident that it won't be controversial. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>What could be more controversial is that the almost entirety of the temporary policy fails the security and stability definition that was in effect by the time the agreements were signed and commonplace/scientific/academia definitions for those terms. Which leaves it vulnerable to challenge thru accountability mechanisms, arbitration and litigation. So anything that we as a Council can do to expedite the policy of what is already in the spec, can mitigate that risk by replacing the temporary policy with a capital C capital P Consensus Policy. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>And for me, that passes to running first thru what is already in the spec, pushing it to an IRT, and then looking at items marked "Further Community Action". I understand the interest that those items, including accreditation programs, bring, but focusing on them is overlooking the risk of the thin ice ICANN has put itself into by using a temporary policy. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>I would like see that part of the temporary policy not having to be reissued after 90 days, if possible. I understand it's a bold milestone, but it's compatible with the work and risks involved. </div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div>Rubens</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Considering, that this is a new process to all I think we will be learning as we go. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Best, </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Susan </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 9:46 PM, Drazek, Keith <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank" class="">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="m_848876328726484768WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">And, as a GNSO PDP, it must respect the picket fence. Not all issues in the Temporary Specification are eligible for a PDP. This is going to be one of the important scoping questions for the Council’s attention.
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</b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b> Thursday, May 24, 2018 12:35 AM<br class="">
<b class="">To:</b> Darcy Southwell <<a href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank" class="">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</a><wbr class="">>; Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" target="_blank" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>>; Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>><span class=""><br class="">
<b class="">Cc:</b> GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br class="">
</span><b class="">Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] ePDP<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></p>
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</div><div class=""><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u class=""></u> <u class=""></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" class="">Also we need to remember that the ePDP needs to focus on the temporary spec NOT on “fixing” whois. To that end it needs to be focussed on the various policies etc., that are impacted by the temporary spec and are now
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</span></b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">council-bounces@gnso.icann.<wbr class="">org</a>> on behalf of Darcy Southwell <<a href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank" class="">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</a><wbr class="">><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Thursday 24 May 2018 at 02:21<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" target="_blank" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>>, Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [council] ePDP<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif" class="">Agree with Rubens that no one SO/AC is more important than another.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif" class=""> </span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-family:"Candara",sans-serif" class="">Is Susan’s suggestion 5-6 per SO/AC or SG/C? I’m confused.
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</span></b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size: 12pt;" class="">council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">council-bounces@gnso.icann.<wbr class="">org</a>> on behalf of Rubens Kuhl <<a href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" target="_blank" class="">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Date: </b>Wednesday, May 23, 2018 at 9:16 PM<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Cc: </b>GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" class="">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br class="">
<b class="">Subject: </b>Re: [council] ePDP</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">On 23 May 2018, at 21:26, Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">I have given the potential ePDP much thought over the last two days. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">To effectively do this work at the speed that it will require we need to focus the ePDP. As you all know this is a tremendous amount of work. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">We need to address the following: <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">Including at the very least the GAC and SSAC in this ePDP will be critical. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">While this is still a GNSO ePDP, the fact that we will likely not run an open WG means that we should invite ACs, but I don't see why some ACs would be critical and others would not. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">The members of the team should be limited to 5-6 members of each SG/AC. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">I'm more inclined to a lesser number of members per SG, and even less from ACs, perhaps one each per AC.<u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">And to be willing to come to common grounds... which is the only way for this effort to not fail like all others before them have. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">Understand that their work is representational of the community they are affiliated with and will receive endorsement to express views. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">I'm not sure of that; while I understand that idea, and this is how Council representation works for 3 of the 4 GNSO SGs, I'm afraid it could be not practical and hamper productivity, but I'm not ready yet to offer an
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">Create a leadership team with extensive knowledge and time to focus on this work. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">Select a Chair that will have the time and skills to effectively manage the ePDP. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">I believe Board liaison(s) would be helpful in not causing a delay by drafting a policy Board wouldn't be able to accept, but I wouldn't call them members. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">This ePDP should focus on the critical needs identified in the Annex of the Temporary Spec. first as these issues are of critical importance. (copied below for ease of reference) <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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</div><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" class="">But if the main topics are not dealt with by the ePDP, temp spec will expire and lose effect... so I would rather see the opposite: taking first the items already included in the spec, bake all the uncontroversial ones
into policy and begin implementation of them ASAP. Only after that first report, deal with controversial and further community action ones. Having parallel PDP/IRT teams also seem to be needed to achieve the ambitious timeframe imposed by the temp spec framework. <u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:16.0pt" class="">Annex: Important Issues for Further Community Action</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">The purpose of this Annex is to set forth implementation issues raised during the course of development of this Temporary Specification
for which the ICANN Board encourages the community to continue discussing so that they may be resolved as quickly as possible after the effective date of the Temporary Specification. This Annex does not create new or modified requirements for Registrar or
Registry Operator, nor is it intended to direct the scope of the Policy Development Process, which will be initiated as a result of the Board’s adoption of thisTemporary Specification.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p>
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<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Pursuant to Section 4.4, continuing community work to develop an accreditation and access model that complies with GDPR, while recognizing the need to obtain additional guidance from Article 29 Working Party/European
Data Protection Board.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Addressing the feasibility of requiring unique contacts to have a uniform anonymized email address across domain name registrations at a given Registrar, while ensuring security/stability and meeting the requirements
of Section 2.5.1 of Appendix A.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Developing methods to provide potential URS and UDRP complainants with sufficient access to Registration Data to support good-faith filings of complaints.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Consistent process for continued access to Registration Data, including non- public data, for users with a legitimate purpose, until the time when a final accreditation and access mechanism is fully operational, on
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<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Distinguishing between legal and natural persons to allow for public access to the Registration Data of legal persons, which are not in the remit of the GDPR.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Limitations in terms of query volume envisaged under an accreditation program balanced against realistic investigatory cross-referencing needs.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li><li class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Confidentiality of queries for Registration Data by law enforcement authorities.</span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></li></ol><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
<span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt" class="">Looking forward to discussing further tonight. </span><span lang="EN-IE" class=""><u class=""></u><u class=""></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">
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