<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">In violent agreement with points made so far!<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Erika <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Aug 28, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">You blunt, dear colleague? Surely not... ;-).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Agreed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>
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<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 28, 2018 12:08 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>>; Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>; GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] PDP updates for ICANN63<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marie<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well I can be a little blunter.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">There’s no value in us all sitting through a 20 page slide deck with the entire history and background of a PDP and the policy that it’s dealing with. While that kind of information is useful it’s more suited to pre-reading etc.,
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<p class="MsoNormal">Regards<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Michele<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 28 August 2018 at 11:04<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>, Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>, GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] PDP updates for ICANN63<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Agree with you both.</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Updates are of course useful, but can be pre-meeting webinars/pre-reads/perhaps a 2 minute overview with one slide as an intro for the F2F. Then we need to know projected timelines, any issues/problems/blockages
and everything Michele lists. We’re supposed to have an overview of process including concerns and of course we do have to meet physically as we’re supposed to help as well as represent!</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Thanks</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D">Marie</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:#1F497D"> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 28, 2018 10:53 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>; GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] PDP updates for ICANN63</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Heather<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">My own thoughts are that any “updates” should be more of a dialogue.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Is there something happening within the PDP that we need to know about?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Is action from us required?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Do they need something from us?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Do they need something from the various SGs etc?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">I agree about duplication <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Michele<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black"><a href="https://blacknight.blog/">https://blacknight.blog/</a></span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">
https://michele.blog/</a></span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">
https://ceo.hosting/</a> </span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE" style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From:
</span></b><span lang="EN-IE" style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday 28 August 2018 at 08:03<br>
<b>To: </b>GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[council] PDP updates for ICANN63</span><span lang="EN-IE"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Dear Council colleagues, <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">As we enter the final stretch of pre-ICANN63 planning I would like to do a bit of strategic thinking about how we prepare for PDP work in Barcelona.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">We have over the years tried two methods - devoting time in the Council weekend workshop to an update from each of our live PDPs, and the more recent alternative of a pre-public meeting GNSO policy webinar. There is also,
I should add here for context, a broader ICANN policy webinar that occurs prior to public meetings in which the GNSO participates, as do other SO/ACs.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">The question here is how best/most useful/most efficient to update on our PDPs: on the ground in Barcelona, or advance by webinar? My principal feedback to staff to this point has been that while I think it's very helpful
to have the updates before we hit the ground at a f2f, it seems to duplicate efforts to hold both a generic policy webinar
<i>and </i>a GNSO specific policy webinar.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Your thoughts very much appreciated!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-IE">Heather<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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