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<p class="MsoNormal">Rafik / Kurt<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Speaking personally and not on behalf of anyone else, I am happy to see this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As you’ve outlined it would have been premature to contact them at this juncture and would probably done more harm than good.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com><br>
<b>Date: </b>Friday 21 December 2018 at 19:19<br>
<b>To: </b>Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[council] Update from EPDP leadership regarding the EDPB letter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Dear GNSO Councilors: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">We are writing to report some specific recent actions by the EPDP team. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">As you know, the EPDP Charter states that, "the Initial Report should be submitted to the European Data Protection Board [EDPB] or other relevant DPAs to request feedback on the applicability
of the law in relation to the proposed recommendations, particularly those that may carry over from Temporary Specification to Consensus Policy recommendations to the ICANN Board.”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">After a detailed and constructive discussion, the EPDP team has decided (for the time being) to not directly contact the EDPB in order to request feedback on the Initial Report. We are writing
to explain the thought process that went into that decision and seek any feedback the Council has to offer. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">As the EPDP team debated and discussed charter questions and issues leading to the publication of the initial report, it identified a set of legal questions (i.e., interpreting the GDPR) that
required resolution before certain policy recommendations could be made. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">During an EPDP meeting, the team debated whether: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">1.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">To send the set of legal questions to the EDPB for input, and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:36.0pt"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">2.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">To send the Initial Report to the EDPB along with certain messages: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">the Initial Report is available for their review and comment,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">the Initial Report is a prelude to the Final Report, likely to become ICANN Policy, and</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:72.0pt"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:black">o</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:black">
</span><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">that we are wading through certain legal questions and are getting independent input on those</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">So far, we have decided to do neither, primarily for two reasons.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">First, the EDPBs own writings and the personal experiences of some EPDP members indicate that the EDPB is NOT a consulting resource. The EDPB provides advisories and guidance to governments
and DPAs. The EPDP team determined that we should seek answers to our legal questions through independent legal advice and, perhaps through DPAs. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Second, perhaps recognizing that the Initial Report had not yet resolved all issues, the EPDP Team thought that is would not yet be a good use of the EDPB’s time and good will to ask them
to opine on something that is incomplete. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">So, other than a notice that ICANN is working on GDPR issues and is making progress, the team believes that a letter to the EDPB would have little to offer. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">It was suggested that such a letter would be useful as it would serve to manage EDPB expectations: so that the final report would not provide the “first look” at our work. While some in the
EPDP that agreed with this, there were also strong opinions in the EPDP that the letter as currently drafted and timed might actually harm relations with the EDPB.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Given that one cannot “unsend” a letter, it was decided to hold off for the time being. As we progress our discussions and watch the interactions between the EDPB and ICANN or between the
EDPB and other organizations, we can continue to re-assess our decision and possible send a notice (or a more meaningful notice) at a later date. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">We would be pleased to provide additional detail or discuss this with the Council in greater detail at your convenience.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Sincerely,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:Helvetica;color:black">Kurt & Rafik</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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