<div>Thanks for
making your view known. I’d like to know what options there are, and how widespread
the impact is going to be, before I make up my mind.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best
wishes, Ayden<br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:29 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Ayden</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I’d oppose adding a day at the end.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">While I know how dedicated everyone is nobody is a Duracell bunny</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Regards</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Michele</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><div><p><span style="color:black">--</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">https://www.blacknight.com/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">https://blacknight.blog/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Personal blog: https://michele.blog/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">-------------------------------</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><br></p></div><p><span style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"></span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></span></b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com><br> <b>Reply to: </b>Ayden Férdeline <icann@ferdeline.com><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday 26 March 2019 at 16:28<br> <b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com><br> <b>Cc: </b>Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com>, Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org><br> <b>Subject: </b>Re: [council] EPDP Team resources request</span></span></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><div><p>I’m not sure it is possible to have a day minus 1 either, as ICANN may not have hired the space required for that day. I’m not sure if an extra day after the meeting is an option we can consider either. Maybe it is. So thanks for flagging
 this, Marie – good to check what our options may be, and how widespread the impact is likely to be.<br></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><div><p>Ayden<br></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><div><p>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></p></div><div><p>On Tuesday, March 26, 2019 5:22 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> wrote:<br></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Marie</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">If the issue is that day 0 causes issues for only one member then surely that’s why there are alternates?</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I’d be supportive of using day 0, but I suspect that adding a day before that could have a significant cost.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">I’m also not even sure that doing something that day is even possible.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Regards</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB">Michele</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><div><p><span style="color:black">--</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">https://www.blacknight.com/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">https://blacknight.blog/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Personal blog: https://michele.blog/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Some thoughts: https://ceo.hosting/</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">-------------------------------</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><br></p></div><p><span style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US" lang="EN-GB"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></span></b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday 26 March 2019 at 14:58<br> <b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <michele@blacknight.com>, Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>, Keith Drazek <kdrazek@verisign.com><br> <b>Cc: </b>Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org><br> <b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] EPDP Team resources request</span></span></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><p><span style="color:black">Hi Michele,</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Good questions: I don’t know the affiliation of all of the EPDP Team members I’m afraid, but I do know that the BC’s Mark is Vice-Chair of the UASG and given the importance of the UA work to everyone I’m sure there must be some
 other cross-overs. You know that we are fully committed to the EPDP work and of course we need that Team to have as much space to meet as possible; at the same time, the UASG is vital to the community. There’s also a history of EPDP-UA-RDAP clashes, which
 is a real shame as we need the good people in the right places and not pelting down corridors between rooms. It’s not about one being more important than the other, it’s about trying to minimise clashes and maximise engagement. (I’m an eternal optimist, let
 me keep my dreams here...)</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">As for solutions – well, as the UASG workshop is already organised/promoted, is there any chance we could have the EPDP F2F on day minus one?</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Marie</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> <br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:48 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Marie Pattullo <marie.pattullo@aim.be>; Rafik Dammak <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>; Drazek, Keith <kdrazek@verisign.com><br> <b>Cc:</b> Council GNSO <council@gnso.icann.org><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] EPDP Team resources request</span></p></div></div><p> <br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Marie</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">How many EPDP members would be impacted by this?</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">What about alternates?</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">How would you propose they address this?</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><div><p><span style="color:black">--</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Mr Michele Neylon</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Solutions</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><a href="https://blacknight.blog/">https://blacknight.blog/</a></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">-------------------------------</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span><br></p></div><p><span style="color:black">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></span></b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">Marie Pattullo <<a href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday 26 March 2019 at 09:40<br> <b>To: </b>Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>>, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>, Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br> <b>Cc: </b>Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject: </b>RE: [council] EPDP Team resources request</span></span></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><p><span style="color:black">Many thanks, Rafik.</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">We have a concern, however:</span> d<span style="color:black">ay 0 is the long-standing Universal Acceptance Steering Group workshop and has been for the last 3-4 years. Not only will that clash cause serious issues for some EPDP
 members, the community has already been encouraged to arrive one day early to attend and participate in this workshop.</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Can this be addressed please?</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Thanks</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><p><span style="color:black">Marie</span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"> </span><br></p><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US"> council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 26, 2019 10:02 AM<br> <b>To:</b> Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>; Drazek, Keith <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [council] EPDP Team resources request</span></p></div></div><p> <br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Rafik</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Thanks for sharing this request.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Personally I think most of it is very reasonable and I particularly like the pragmatic approach to things like the transcripts.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Could you perhaps clarify what you’re thinking about in relation to ICANN 65. You mentioned a full day meeting on day 0, but it’s not clear how many other meetings etc., the team would be expected to have during ICANN
 65. I ask this as you’re, quite reasonably, requesting travel support for some of the group, so a better understanding of what that travel support would actually be covering would be helpful.</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Regards</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Michele</span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><div><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">--</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Mr Michele Neylon</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Blacknight Solutions</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><a href="https://www.blacknight.com/">https://www.blacknight.com/</a></span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard"><a href="http://blacknight.blog/">http://blacknight.blog/</a></span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Personal blog: <a href="https://michele.blog/">https://michele.blog/</a></span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Some thoughts: <a href="https://ceo.hosting/">https://ceo.hosting/</a></span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">-------------------------------</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span></span><br></p><p><span style="color:black"><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span></span><br></p></div><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><p><span style="mso-fareast-language:EN-US"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p><b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">From: </span></span></b><span style="color:black"><span style="font-size:12pt">council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>><br> <b>Date: </b>Tuesday 26 March 2019 at 04:13<br> <b>To: </b>Keith Drazek <<a href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br> <b>Cc: </b>Council GNSO <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject: </b>[council] EPDP Team resources request</span></span></p></div><div><p> <br></p></div><div><p><span style="font-size:12pt">Dear Keith,</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">As directed by the GNSO Council, the EPDP Team has commenced its work on phase 2 by focusing on the development of a work plan and timeline for the phase 2 deliberations.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">As part of these discussions, the EPDP Team is also expected to identify whether any additional resources are needed, beyond the traditional support that is provided to GNSO policy development activities, to meet the milestones
 and timeline proposed. The EPDP Team would like to recognize the critical importance of the additional resources provided for phase 1 in facilitating the deliberations and allowing the EPDP Team to deliver a Final Report within the timeframe provided.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">The EPDP Team wants to ensure that any specific resource requests are fiscally responsible by demonstrating clear alignment with the work plan and timeline, as such, some additional time will be needed to formulate any such
 requests. Nevertheless, there are some immediate resources that the EPDP Team considers crucial in supporting the initial stages of phase 2 and as such we would like to request that the GNSO Council petition the ICANN Board to provide immediate support for
 the following resources:</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="font-size:12pt">·</span></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman", serif"><span style="font-size:7pt">      </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt">Continued availability of legal counsel, following the same process and approach in phase 1 (any questions are vetted through the legal committee);</span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="font-size:12pt">·</span></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman", serif"><span style="font-size:7pt">      </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt">Continued support for telecom services and transcriptions, but to reduce costs, transcriptions would have a 72 hour turnaround time (instead of 24 hour);</span><br></p><p style="mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:0cm;margin-left:36.0pt;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Symbol"><span style="font-size:12pt">·</span></span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman", serif"><span style="font-size:7pt">      </span></span><span style="font-size:12pt">Mediation support for the EPDP Team meetings at ICANN65 in Marrakesh.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">Some have also requested that travel support is to be made available for ICANN65 for EPDP Team members who would otherwise not be able to attend and where no alternate is able to step in. We leave it up to the Council’s discretion
 to determine whether this is a reasonable request to include with the above.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">In order to take full advantage of the face-to-face opportunity that Marrakesh offers and minimize conflict with other meetings, we would also like to request support for organizing a one day face-to-face meeting on day zero
 of ICANN65. A request for such a meeting would need to be made by 26 March at the latest and is subject to approval by ICANN Org as well as availability of facilities. If such a request is granted, this would also require funded travelers to arrive a day earlier
 than normally foreseen, including an additional hotel night.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">We look forward to receiving your feedback. If you have any questions or would like to discuss this request further, please let me know.</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">Best Regards,</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">Rafik Dammak</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt">Interim Chair and GNSO Council liaison to the EPDP Team</span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span><br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p> <br></p></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>