<div class="__aliyun_email_body_block"><div  style="clear:both;"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Hi Marika</span>, </div><div  style="clear:both;"><br ></div><div  style="clear:both;">Thank you for following up with the staff responsible on this.</div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Details on the 2nd webinar are as follows:</span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><p  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;"><strong >Time:</strong> 03:00 (UTC) – 04:00 (UTC) <span  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline;">19 September 2019</span></p><p  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;"><span  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:medium;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;float:none;display:inline;"></span>LINK TO THE SESSION: <a  href="https://icann.zoom.us/j/532026397" title="https://icann.zoom.us/j/532026397" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;">https://icann.zoom.us/j/532026397</a></p><p  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;">Webinar ID: 532 026 397<br >International numbers available:<br ><a  href="https://zoom.us/u/abhtJZkRdd" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline;">https://zoom.us/u/abhtJZkRdd</a></p><p  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;">Reminder to save costs, please always select Computer or Internet Audio as the first choice when connecting to the Zoom Room, and only use Telephone Audio as a last resort.</p><p  style="caret-color:#000000;color:#000000;font-size:14.0px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:.0px;text-transform:none;text-decoration:none;">The sessions will be in English only.</p></div><div  style="clear:both;"><br ></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Kind regards,</span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Pam</span></div><blockquote  style="margin-right:0;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">------------------------------------------------------------------</span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Sender:<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Marika</span> Konings <marika.konings@icann.org></span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Sent At:2019 Sep. 8 (Sun.) 06:30</span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Recipient:Rafik <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Dammak</span> <rafik.dammak@gmail.com>; PAMELALITTLE <pam.little@alibaba-inc.com></span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Cc:gnso-secs@icann.org <gnso-secs@icann.org>; council@gnso.icann.org <council@gnso.icann.org>; council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org></span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;">Subject:Re: [council] Global Public Interest Framework Webinar</span></div><div  style="clear:both;"><span  style="font-family:Tahoma,Arial,STHeiti,SimSun;font-size:14.0px;color:#000000;"><br ></span></div><style >!--  @font-face{font-family:Helvetica;panose-1:0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0;}{font-family:Cambria Math;panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}{font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}{font-family:tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}{font-family:Georgia;panose-1:2 4 5 2 5 4 5 2 3 3;}{font-family:Candara;panose-1:2 14 5 2 3 3 3 2 2 4;}{font-family:Gill Sans MT Pro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 page</span></a>, and the Leadership Digest announcement will be updated accordingly. Given current workloads and scheduling conflicts, both webinars won’t be equally attended by Board members. The Board will join accordingly as its participation is seen as
 critical to encourage a fruitful and productive dialogue.</span></i></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><i ><span  style="color:black;"> </span></i></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><i ><span  style="color:black;">The current timeline reflects the expectation of the Board to deliver on this 2019 operational priority. As the Board engages in discussions and finds that the community needs more time, a timeline adjustment
 will be considered. The Board is committed to facilitating a bottom-up discussion on this important topic.</span></i></p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Marika</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-size:16.0px;color:black;">From: </span></b><span  style="font-size:16.0px;color:black;">council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org> on behalf of Rafik <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Dammak</span> <rafik.dammak@gmail.com><br ><b >Date: </b>Friday, September 6, 2019 at 00:16<br ><b >To: </b>Pam Little <pam.little@alibaba-inc.com><br ><b >Cc: </b>"gnso-secs@icann.org" <gnso-secs@icann.org>, "council@gnso.icann.org" <council@gnso.icann.org>, council <council-bounces@gnso.icann.org><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Global Public Interest Framework Webinar</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi Pam,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><div ><ol  start="1" type="1"><li  class="MsoNormal">
Timing of the webinar: Could staff please confirm whether there will only be one webinar scheduled for Tuesday, 17 September 2019 at 15:00 UTC and only community leaders are invited to such webinar. If so, it seems odd that a webinar on <span  style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;">Global
 Public Interest Framework is scheduled at a time that disadvantages those from the APAC time zones. I would urge ICANN
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">org</span> to consider hosting two webinars (one of which at a time slot that is APAC region friendly) with both open to all community members.</span></li></ol></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in;background-color:white;"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I agree that there should be a second webinar with a friendlier time slot for those in APAC.</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> Best,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Rafik</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;">------------------------------------------------------------------</span></p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;">Sender:Elsa S <<a  href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>></span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;">Sent At:2019 Sep. 6 (Fri.) 14:33</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;">Recipient:"Drazek, Keith" <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>></span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;"><a  href="mailto:Cc%3Agnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">Cc:gnso-secs@icann.org</a> <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>;
<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a> <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:14.0px;font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:black;">Subject:Re: [council] FW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I guess it is the best time to highlight the subject! Thank you for sharing
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Marika</span>.</p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Best,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Elsa</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">—</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Thu</span>, Sep 5, 2019 at 11:39 PM Drazek, Keith <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Marika</span>!</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px;"><br >
On Sep 5, 2019, at 7:56 PM, 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Marika</span> Konings <<a  href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">In light of Elsa’s comments, you may be particularly interested in the following announcement from the Leadership Digest:</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#387b37;">NEW: </span></b><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">Global
 Public Interest Framework Webinar</span></b></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">Executive: </span></b><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">Sally
 Costerton, Senior Adviser to President and Senior Vice President, Global Stakeholder Engagement</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">FOR: </span></b><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">All Community
 Leaders</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">INFORMATION SHARING</span></b></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">You are invited to attend a webinar to learn more about one of the ICANN
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Board’s</span> operational priorities: the public interest.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">The global public interest is central to many of ICANN’s primary governance documents, and the ICANN Board
 hopes to play a role in facilitating a bottom-up, community-driven process to develop a framework as a toolkit for the ICANN community to consider the global public interest. These considerations would not change the process by which decisions are made but
 could instead serve as tools for the community to reinforce the commitment to the public interest and to demonstrate how specific recommendations, advice, and public comments are in the global public interest. This includes the ICANN community guiding the
 ICANN Board about the public interest determination the latter must make in its decisions.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">To learn more about the framework, please read the </span><span  style="color:black;"><a  href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__r20.rs6.net_tn.jsp-3Ff-3D001kzb9OADNNHL9gpb3g69XAQHnC3pvWn1ZdEjwx6P-5FLh4INyH7fNdcMLqNjKW53PG9sEOJmq4wMupmI3jvMwoiFQxhaIOdqUS9UHmUeF2UzMoqLwnqEeASI9qPFMfuwCCPfbp62aDh02HDcJ2bCaU9bEdDAy9cRmm0AjB0mL3gj2BOVlPGAcFDGubBN1cxx3SHJ1RAuFpmKS7k91c33piISkNz3dPxxC08LSP-5FzTdqYp6Fu5GKN0k5Ple34x71IYyOqPzZSF-2D7OTtE-5Flr9Gp1cb-5FsobdckJFMazulsj9TKDbt2zkxDfCvGOVOhEhVNtoJxOBFJd9EEkBMF6MJdMET4C8HeCkAGwJ5p8e9Ub8e5E0FCHhZXNLZsZRzjTMlm-5FJpO3GHzrF-2DDQdkpnoOj5YCVekw3knuDg3wr-26c-3DQ32d53pCN7DAodEKiM9X9QVauW2KT-2DX6yqH5-5Fl62sT2yRPv4iJ97iA-3D-3D-26ch-3Dmt3T77XbBOd1q7BRWytgTl-5FRd5OeSCXQKZgUPoUuyigrTCTyi1hZAQ-3D-3D&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=cjElX0m-adnDrCPnbNKPvZI4TYkwSpeWW8YlsKWx4ZU&s=JmBXhzYlzZTjojpJR0G4jcV2CRfRvpWSPmbqvDzwa-s&e=" target="_blank"><b ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#48a199;">discussion
 paper [r20.rs6.net]</span></b></a></span><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">The <b >Global Public Interest Framework Webinar </b>has been scheduled for <b >Tuesday, 17 September 2019
 at 15:00 UTC</b>.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#403f42;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black;">To join the webinar, please visit </span><b ><u ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:#48a199;"><a  href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__icann.zoom.us_j_288558444&d=DwMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=zMzbaEH1CHsN-g_dNaeogs_8_MBCvIT9XdDWaBLMep4&s=NvnmTelXVEeI8KhGdcpeuq2Avd4YIUobjtAFv0ySUZw&e=" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">https://icann.zoom.us/j/288558444</span>
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</span></b><span  style="font-size:16.0px;color:black;">council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Elsa S <<a  href="mailto:elsa.saade@gmail.com" target="_blank">elsa.saade@gmail.com</a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Friday, August 30, 2019 at 10:30<br ><b >To: </b>"Drazek, Keith" <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br ><b >Cc: </b>"<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>>, "<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] FW: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">Hi Keith and all,</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;"> </span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">Thank you for the edits. I apologize that I haven't had the chance to incorporate this into the document in a new redlined
</span><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">version, but here is my suggested language about Global Public Interest, I'd be happy to review any amendments:</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">We are aware that one of ICANN's core values is to ascertain the global public interest through the bottom-up, multistakeholder policy
 development processes (1.2(b)(ii) of ICANN's bylaws). However, as the term Global Public Interest is not in the bylaw language for
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">PDPs</span> such as in Section 9a of Annex A of the GNSO Policy Development Process, whereby: "<span  style="color:#424242;">Any PDP Recommendations approved by a GNSO Supermajority Vote shall be adopted
 by the Board unless, by a vote of more than two-thirds (2/3) of the Board, the Board determines that such policy is not in the best interests of the ICANN community or ICANN" </span>and given that the board has invoked global public interest (or public interest)
 a number of times in its resolution as the basis of its decision regarding the EPDP phase 1 policy recommendations, the council is concerned with the use of the terms, particularly "Global Public Interest", in the
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">board's</span> letter to the council on EPDP Phase 1. It is important that when invoking public interest generally, that the Board be specific about the material effect that the recommendation has on public
 interest. Invoking GAC advice is not on its own sufficient. It is also important that when the term Global Public Interest is used, there should be a rationale as to why it is being used instead of the PDP bylaw language. The council is generally concerned
 about the process that the Board has used to assess the effect of the recommendations on global public interest and would be happy to have a bigger conversation on the issue going forward.</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">Happy to follow up,</span></p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">Elsa</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:16.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">--</span></p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 30, 2019 at 10:21 AM Drazek, Keith via council <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>> wrote:</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Final reminder on this letter. We will send at 2000 UTC.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks,</p><p  class="MsoNormal">Keith</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#e1e1e1;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From:</b> council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
<b >On Behalf Of </b>Drazek, Keith via council<br ><b >Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 1:48 PM<br ><b >To:</b> <a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br ><b >Cc:</b> <a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br ><b >Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks to
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span>, Marie and Tatiana for their continued input on this letter.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"><br >
I have incorporated most of the suggested edits and added the SG/C information we discussed on 22 August and mentioned below.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Attached are clean and redlined versions for your review.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Please look these over and send me any final comments by this Friday at 2000 UTC. We need to wrap this up and get it sent.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks,
<br >
Keith</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From:</b> Tatiana Tropina <<a  href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com" target="_blank">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>>
<br ><b >Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 1:16 PM<br ><b >To:</b> Marie Pattullo <<a  href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be" target="_blank">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>><br ><b >Cc:</b> <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell <<a  href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</a>>; Michele
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Neylon</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Blacknight</span> <<a  href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>; Drazek, Keith <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>;
<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>;
<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br ><b >Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Dear all,</p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">during the call, it was agreed that in the bullet point two we could add which constituencies/<span  class="spellcheck_typo">SGs</span> supported which
 position - maybe as a footnote? I don't have any language suggested because I wanted to ask Terri or Nathalie for help to get the "headcount" in the footnote right so I won't make any mistakes. Would this be possible? If there are any alternative suggestions
 to the footnote, I can propose the text, of course. </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Warm regards,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Tanya </p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On Wed, 28 Aug 2019 at 19:06, Marie Pattullo <<a  href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be" target="_blank">marie.pattullo@aim.be</a>> wrote:</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">Hi all,</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">Following from Darcy’s mail below, please find the suggested amendments from the BC in the attached.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">Best to all,</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">Marie</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From:</b> council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
<b >On Behalf Of </b><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell<br ><b >Sent:</b> Thursday, August 22, 2019 4:08 PM<br ><b >To:</b> Michele <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Neylon</span> -
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Blacknight</span> <<a  href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>; Drazek, Keith <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>;
<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br ><b >Cc:</b> <a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a><br ><b >Subject:</b> Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;color:black;">In follow up to my email below and today's Council discussion, please find my proposed edits to section 2 attached.</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;color:black;">Thanks,</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;color:black;"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span></span></p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 10:13 AM
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell <<a  href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Candara,sans-serif;">Thanks, all, for preparing this.  I’m struggling a bit with section 2.  I agree we’ve characterized
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span> position accurately in section 2.  But the rest seems confusing.  Did we already provide the Board with the written explanation of what was discussed in Marrakech?  If not, we should consider
 explaining that it’s provided now and then be more specific in our ask to the Board.</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Candara,sans-serif;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Candara,sans-serif;">Thanks,</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Candara,sans-serif;"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span></span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Candara,sans-serif;"> </span></p><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="color:black;">From:
</span></b><span  style="color:black;">council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of Michele
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Neylon</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Blacknight</span> <<a  href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Friday, August 16, 2019 at 8:35 AM<br ><b >To: </b>Keith Drazek <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>>, "<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br ><b >Cc: </b>"<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Keith and Co
</p><p  class="MsoNormal"><br >
Thanks for your work on this. I think it captures pretty accurately where we are at</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Regards</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Michele</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">--</span></p><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="color:black;">Mr Michele
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</span></b><span  style="color:black;">council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf of "Drazek, Keith via council" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br ><b >Reply to: </b>Keith Drazek <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Thursday 15 August 2019 at 17:59<br ><b >To: </b>"<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br ><b >Cc: </b>"<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi all,</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">In preparation for our 22 August GNSO Council meeting, and further Council discussion on this topic, I am attaching an updated draft letter for your review.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">We have attempted to incorporate everyone’s comments and expressed views in this draft.
</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">To summarize, the goal of this letter is to:</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><ol  start="1" type="1"><li  class="MsoNormal">
Ensure the Council is proceeding as expected under <span  style="color:black;">Annex A-1 Section 6 of the ICANN Bylaws.</span></li><li  class="MsoNormal">
Create a record of the Council-Board engagement in Marrakech.</li><li  class="MsoNormal">
Advise the Board of the <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span> current thinking around Recommendation #1, Purpose 2 and Recommendation #12.</li><li  class="MsoNormal">
Seek further input from the Board, and ideally confirm a common understanding or more clearly understand any difference of opinion.</li><li  class="MsoNormal">
Ensure that the Council is setting good precedent in terms of how we engage in this kind of situation.</li></ol><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">In response to comments from Marie and Flip, we have added language that acknowledges a difference of opinion among Councilors on the subject of Rec #12 and the deletion of data.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Please review and provide any comments to the list. We will also discuss next week. Let me know if I missed anything.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks to all and I appreciate your patience on this one.</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal">Best,</p><p  class="MsoNormal">Keith</p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#e1e1e1;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From:</b> council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
<b >On Behalf Of </b>Rubens 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Kuhl</span><br ><b >Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 30, 2019 2:08 PM<br ><b >To:</b> Flip <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank">fpetillion@petillion.law</a>><br ><b >Cc:</b> <a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>;
<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br ><b >Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px;"> </p><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Em 30 de jul de 2019, à(s) 10:14:000, Flip
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank">fpetillion@petillion.law</a>> escreveu:</p></div><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Rubens,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I share the feeling that it is uncommon to have a substantive discussion within the Council. However, that is exactly what the Bylaws mandate us to do within the atypical framework
 of expedited <span  class="spellcheck_typo">PDPs</span>. Doesn’t the proposed one pager attached to the draft letter also address substance?</p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p  class="MsoNormal">I don't think the bylaws mandate who specifically does that. It's a substantive discussion, but in the same way we ask
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">WGs</span> to take them, we can ask the RegData EPDP WG to answer the substance. If we engage ourselves in a discussion where we first delegated authority to a WG, we would be disenfranchising them. </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px;">BTW, Expedited
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">PDPs</span> only differ from Standard
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">PDPs</span> by not having an Issue Report to frame discussions. So everything we does here is a precedent for any future PDP, being an EPDP or not. </p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">As to your second comment, I think we owe it to the community to provide the Board with recommendations and reasoning that is legally sound. If certain aspects of privacy have been
 previously overlooked, now seems the time to correct them.</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p  class="MsoNormal">IPC can send Board, PDP or anyone else any communication they see fit at any time. But the discussion here is not that, it's only the Board rationale for not approving the PDP recommendation. </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Rubens</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Flip</p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Flip
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 [<span  class="spellcheck_typo">petillion</span>.law]</a></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Gill Sans MT Pro Light,sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Gill Sans MT Pro Light,sans-serif;">  </span><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Gill Sans MT Pro Light,sans-serif;">Attorneys –
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Advocaten</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Avocats</span></span></p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From: </b>Rubens
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Kuhl</span> <<a  href="mailto:rubensk@nic.br" target="_blank">rubensk@nic.br</a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Tuesday, 30 July 2019 at 13:22<br ><b >To: </b>Flip <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank">fpetillion@petillion.law</a>><br ><b >Cc: </b><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Ayden</span> Férdeline <<a  href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>, "<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Flip,</p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I find strange we are having a substantive discussion on the topic within the Council. I believe our approach to board denials of PDP recommendation should be to ask the PDP WG
 what clarifications or positions they have, and relay them to the board. IPC is represented in the PDP so the same content you posted here could be used there while formulating the response, whatever that response would look like. </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">And still on process grounds, it's clear that the board rationale for not approving part of Rec. 12 is different from the IPC rationale you relayed to the Council. But the rationale
 that needs to be answered to is the Board one, because they've made the decision to not fully approve rec. 12. So while it's interesting to know the overall IPC position on the matter, the topic at hand is the Board decision. </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Rubens</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:16.0px;"> </p></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On 30 Jul 2019, at 06:54, Flip
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">fpetillion@petillion.law</span></a>> wrote:</p></div></div><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Ayden</span>,</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Thank you for your questions and for the opportunity to clarify our position. I understand your questions address the substance of the recommendations and not the GNSO
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span> remit within the Board Approval Process.</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><ol  start="1" type="1"><li  class="MsoNormal">
Regarding your first question:</li></ol><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">You are correct that the ‘Organisation’ field pertains to information of legal entities and thus should not be subject to GDPR principles (and thus should not be deleted or even
 redacted). However, this is not treated as such in the Final Report. To avoid that we enter into circular discussions, we started from the premise in the Final Report (and the draft rationale for rec. #12) that the GDPR could apply to the ‘Organisation’ field.
 Our point is that, in such a case, the practices of both disclosing AND deleting data are subject to GDPR according to article 4 (2). ,The deletion of previously provided data can likewise not occur without a solid purpose, legal basis and safeguards.</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><ol  start="2" type="1"><li  class="MsoNormal">
Regarding your second question:</li></ol><div  style="margin-left:.5in;"><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">(i) You are correct that the GDPR requires consent to be informed, affirmative and freely given. However, active opt-in consent is only required when relying on consent as a legal
 basis (art. 6.1.a). The Final Report and the guidance of the EU Authorities and 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">DPAs</span> have established that, depending on the purpose, the performance of the registration contract (art. 6.1.b) and legitimate interest (art. 6.1.f) are the valid legal bases. For the latter, an opt-out mechanism or redaction mechanism can be sufficient
 to shift the balance in favour of the interested party (<span  class="spellcheck_typo">cfr</span>. Article 29 WP Guidance on Legitimate Interest) and active opt-in consent is not required.</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">(ii) If you were to rely on consent as a legal basis, normally (and ideally) consent is obtained at the time of collection of the personal data (i.e. the registration of the domain
 name). It is at this point in time that the data subject (registrant) is properly informed of the processing activities and is engaged in providing the necessary information related to the purpose and legal bases (i.e., performance of the registration agreement).
 Practice has shown that there are a lot of problems with obtaining consent after the fact (i.e., during the performance of the registration agreement). Quite often data subjects cannot be contacted, are confused about the nature of the opt-in communication,
 are simply not interested, etc. Accordingly, the requirement of an active opt-in consent on the basis of a ‘review request’ to existing registrants unnecessarily risks losing valid organisation information on a wide scale.</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I hope this sufficiently answers your questions and clarifies the position of the IPC on this matter.</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Flip</p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Flip
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<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Advocaten</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Avocats</span></span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From: </b><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Ayden</span> Férdeline <<a  href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">icann@ferdeline.com</span></a>><br ><b >Reply to: </b><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Ayden</span> Férdeline <<a  href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">icann@ferdeline.com</span></a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Tuesday, 30 July 2019 at 00:41<br ><b >To: </b>Flip <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">fpetillion@petillion.law</span></a>><br ><b >Cc: </b>Maxim Alzoba <<a  href="mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">m.alzoba@gmail.com</span></a>>,
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell <<a  href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</span></a>>, "<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a>"
 <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a>>, "<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>" <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Hi Flip,</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Thanks for sharing this input from the IPC.</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Sorry if this is a stupid question, but since data that does not pertain to natural persons is beyond the scope of the GDPR, I do not understand how you can make the claim that
 article 4 (2) of the GDPR does not allow for the organisation field to be deleted. Could you please clarify? Thanks.</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">I am also concerned that what you describe below - "Practice has shown that data subjects are generally reluctant to take active steps after their data has been collected to provide
 active opt-in consent (<span  class="spellcheck_typo">cfr</span>. opt-in emails)" - sounds like a proposal for not obtaining consent that is valid under the GDPR, which I understand requires consent to be freely given.</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Ayden</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">On Monday, 29 July 2019 18:29, Flip
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">fpetillion@petillion.law</span></a>> wrote:</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Dear Keith,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Dear All,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">The IPC <u >shares the 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Board’s</span> concern</u> that the option to <b >delete</b> the Organisation fields contents as a result of a refusal or failure to respond by the registrant upon a ‘review request’ by the registrar, <b >risks resulting in a</b> <b >wide scale loss</b> of crucial
 information about the <span  class="spellcheck_typo">registrant's</span> identity.  </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">While the IPC acknowledges that Recommendation #12 achieved consensus support in the EPDP
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Team’s</span> Phase 1 Final Report, we agree with the Board that the “or delete the field contents” part of recommendation #12 2) b) is not in the best interests of the ICANN community or ICANN.  </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">We therefore do not agree that the recommendation should be resubmitted as is, and also not together with the presented rationale in the draft letter to the Board.  </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Irrespective of the debate as to whether the organisation field may contain personal data or not, the issues considered in the current rationale and the concerns of the Board can both be met by redacting the
 organisation data in case of an opt-out (or lack of active opt-in) instead of deleting. </span></p><div  style="margin-left:.2in;"><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">·</span><span  style="font-size:9.0px;"> </span><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">The concept of ‘privacy by default/design’ in the GDPR does not automatically necessitate the implementation
 of an opt-in mechanism (especially considering the legitimate interests attached to the transparency of organisation information online); </span></p></div><div  style="margin-left:.2in;"><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">·</span><span  style="font-size:9.0px;"> </span><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">The deletion/erasure by a controller of previously provided personal data is also considered ‘processing’
 (article 4 (2) GDPR), for which the controller must determine a purpose and proper legal basis. As a result, a registrar cannot simply delete important information provided by the registrant unless (i) the registrant has requested the erasure of the ‘Organisation’
 field by exercising his right to erasure (this right must be actively exercised and cannot be inferred), (ii) the retention of the ‘Organisation’ field is no longer necessary for the purposes of processing the domain name registration data (Recommendation
 #15 implies that the retention period of the data elements would at the minimum be the ‘life of the registration’), or (<span  class="spellcheck_typo">iii</span>) the registrar can justify the deletion on the basis of another valid
 legal basis (such as the consent of the registrant).  </span></p></div><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Practice has shown that data subjects are generally reluctant to take active steps after their data has been collected to provide active opt-in consent (<span  class="spellcheck_typo">cfr</span>.
 opt-in emails). Together with the expected difficulties in contacting the registrants and verifying their (lack of) consent on a wide scale, the IPC believes (in accordance with the Board Statement) that this would pose a serious and unnecessary risk to lose
 important registrant information. </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Procedurally, we fail to see the use of the checks and balances incorporated in the ‘Board Approval Process’ of Annex A-1 Section 6 of the Bylaws if it would be outside the GNSO <span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span>
 remit to allow a modification to the Consensus Policy recommendation delivered by the EPDP Team. Section 6 of Annex A-1 of the Bylaws specifically provides: </span></p><div  style="margin-left:.5in;"><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><i ><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">“At the conclusion of the Council and Board discussions, the Council shall meet to affirm <u >or modify</u> its recommendation, and communicate that conclusion (the "Supplemental Recommendation") to the
 Board, including an explanation for the then-current recommendation.”</span></i><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">The IPC therefore believes it is in the GNSO
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span> remit to consult with the Board and modify a Consensus Policy Recommendation if such modification alleviates concerns raised in the Board Statement and is in the best interest of the ICANN
 community and ICANN. </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p><p  class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;text-align:justify;vertical-align:baseline;"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">In accordance with the concern raised in the Board Statement, the IPC therefore believes that the “or delete the field contents” part (deletion option) of Recommendation #12 2) b) should be deleted. </span></p><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Best regards,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Flip</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Flip
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<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Advocaten</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Avocats</span></span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-family:Helvetica;">From: </span></b><span  style="font-family:Helvetica;">Flip
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Petillion</span> <<a  href="mailto:fpetillion@petillion.law" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">fpetillion@petillion.law</span></a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Monday, 29 July 2019 at 21:41<br ><b >To: </b>Maxim Alzoba <<a  href="mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">m.alzoba@gmail.com</span></a>>,
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 <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Dear Keith,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Dear All,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Due to the vacation period, we will be able to send in the IPC comments later today or tomorrow morning my time.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Sorry for the inconvenience.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Best regards,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Flip</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Flip
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<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Advocaten</span> - 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Avocats</span></span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#b5c4df;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b ><span  style="font-family:Helvetica;">From: </span></b><span  style="font-family:Helvetica;">council <<a  href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</span></a>>
 on behalf of Maxim Alzoba <<a  href="mailto:m.alzoba@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">m.alzoba@gmail.com</span></a>><br ><b >Date: </b>Thursday, 25 July 2019 at 18:53<br ><b >To: </b><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell <<a  href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</span></a>><br ><b >Cc: </b>"<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a>" <<a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a>>, "<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>"
 <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>><br ><b >Subject: </b>Re: [council] Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"> We support the current draft of the letter and comments of
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span>.</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;">Also I'd like to underline , that the modification of the recommendations is for GNSO Council, not for the Board</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"> ,and that doing micro management of
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">PDPs</span> is not in the GNSO
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council's</span> role.</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:13.0px;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Maxim Alzoba</span></p></div></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">On Wed, Jul 24, 2019, 22:44
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span> Southwell <<a  href="mailto:darcy.southwell@endurance.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">darcy.southwell@endurance.com</span></a>> wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">Thanks you, Keith.  </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">The Registrar Stakeholder Group (RrSG) agrees that it's outside the
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council's</span> remit to modify, or even suggest modification of, a consensus recommendation from a PDP working group and therefore objects to modifying Recommendation 12 to remove the deletion option. 
 The Council should seek to formalize the rationale provided to the Board in Marrakech and resubmit the consensus recommendation to the Board for approval.  Therefore, RrSG supports the
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council's</span> letter to the Board as written regarding Recommendation 12.</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">Regarding Recommendation 1, Purpose 2, the EPDP Team and Board have been quite clear that further legal analysis is necessary to ensure
 Purpose 2 is drafted consistent with applicable laws.  In its Final Report, the EPDP Team recommended Purpose 2 be further evaluated during phase 2 of the EPDP.  In its resolution, the Board clearly instructed ICANN
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Org</span> to engage the 
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">DPAs</span> to accomplish the necessary legal analysis to perform the work.  That legal analysis must be completed before the EPDP Team can even begin to consider how to revise Purpose 2.  </span><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Georgia,serif;">Further,
 it is not typical for the Council to instruct a PDP as to when it works on such specific tasks.  It is up to the PDP Working Group, with its leadership and coordinating with ICANN staff, to prioritize its work.  So far, the EPDP Team has prioritized the work
 related to the System for Standardized Access to Non-Public Registration Data, consistent with its Charter, and with the concerns of many of the GNSO Councilors.  At this point, the RrSG sees no reason for the Council to intervene to reprioritize the Purpose
 2 work ahead of the chartered work. </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;">Best,</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-family:Georgia,serif;"><span  class="spellcheck_typo">Darcy</span></span></p></div></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 12:30 AM Drazek, Keith via council <<a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a>>
 wrote:</span></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Hi Marie,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Thanks for your initial feedback here, and for the discussion during
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">yesterday’s</span> Council call.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">On your second point below, related to the
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Board’s</span> treatment of Recommendation 12, I believe it is outside the
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">Council’s</span> remit to suggest, or even allow, a modification to the Consensus Policy recommendation delivered to us by the EPDP Team, and subsequently delivered by Council to the Board. In my view,
 it is the role of Council to now hold the Board accountable for its decision to not accept Rec 12 in full, and to call for the Board to accept it following the clarification they requested.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">I welcome further discussion on these items following discussion with our respective
<span  class="spellcheck_typo">SGs</span> and Cs, but that’s my current view.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Best,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Keith</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div  style="border-style:solid none none;border-top-width:1.0px;border-top-color:#e1e1e1;padding:4.0px .0in .0in;"><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >From:</b> Marie Pattullo <<a  href="mailto:marie.pattullo@aim.be" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">marie.pattullo@aim.be</span></a>></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >Sent:</b> Thursday, July 18, 2019 10:53 PM</p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >To:</b> Drazek, Keith <<a  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">kdrazek@verisign.com</span></a>></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >Cc:</b> <a  href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a>; <a  href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"><span  style="color:purple;">council@gnso.icann.org</span></a></p></div></div></div><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><b >Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE: Draft GNSO Council Letter to ICANN Board on EPDP Phase 1 Recommendations</p></div></div></div></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Hi Keith,</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">Thanks for sharing the draft. I’m afraid I haven’t been able to discuss this much with our members yet (sorry) but on an initial
 reading, the BC does have some concerns.</span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;"> </span></p></div></div><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal"><span  style="font-size:12.0px;font-family:Helvetica;">On your first point, on rec 1, while the first sentence is great, we have problems with the second. As you know from the comments
 we attached to Janis’ letter, we really need to give the EPDP Team a clear instruction to reword this and replace the placeholder language; I understand that it’s not on the Team</span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p  class="MsoNormal">-- </p><div ><div ><div ><div ><div ><div ><p  class="MsoNormal">--<br ><br >
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