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<div dir="auto">Thanks Kurt, and thanks everyone for their views on this. Apologies for belated answer.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Rather than approaching this with a statement upfront I'd suggest we use this opportunity to clarify what underpins the elements in the board's letter regarding the financial assessment being made already. </div>
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<div dir="auto">This in essence will serve the purpose of whats intended in the points you circulated, which can then be shared and updated with the board by our next call during icann70.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Regards,</div>
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<div>De : Kurt Pritz <kurt@kjpritz.com> </div>
<div>Date : 21/02/2021 22:47 (GMT+01:00) </div>
<div>À : council@gnso.icann.org, FOUQUART Philippe TGI/OLN <philippe.fouquart@orange.com>
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<div>Objet : Re: [council] [CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart - EPDP on the Temp Spec for gTLD Registration Data Phase 2
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<div class="">In response to your requests for thoughts on the Board consultation and the letter received from the Board this past Friday, I have drafted some ideas for a statement in response. </div>
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<div class="">Given the timing, I am just sharing these same thoughts with the CPH EPDP members now also. </div>
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<div class="">Depending on the level of support this receives. It could be read on behalf of the Council and if not, the CPH or CPH EPDP team, and if not, just me. </div>
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<div class="">On Feb 19, 2021, at 1:22 PM, Tom Dale <<a href="mailto:tomwdale@gmail.com" class="">tomwdale@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span class="">That was also my initial response to the correspondence. There appears to be a none-too-subtle gap between the Council’s request and the Board’s response.</span></div>
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<span class="">Re the ODP, has the concept/framework/guidelines/whatever been published in final form since the January webinar? I can’t seem to find it. The relevant<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/ODP/Operational+Design+Phase+Home" class="" style="color:blue; text-decoration:underline">web
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<b class=""><span class="" style="font-size:12pt">From:<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span class="" style="font-size:12pt">council <<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" class="">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>> on behalf
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<b class="">Subject:<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [council] [CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart - EPDP on the Temp Spec for gTLD Registration Data Phase 2</span></p>
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Hi Philippe and everyone: </div>
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I have given some thought to this but not enough and hope to have something well (or at least better) thought out by Monday. </div>
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My early thinking is that: </div>
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1. The Council resolution called for a specific analysis: "Noting some of the questions surrounding the financial sustainability of SSAD and some of the concerns expressed within the different minority statements, the GNSO Council requests a consultation with
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The resolution doesn't request an "ODP"; it requests analysis of sustainability and cost-benefit. </div>
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2. The Board responded and stated, essentially, “we welcome the consultation and will create a methodology (the ODP) to address the issues raised.”</div>
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3, The Council wrote: great, here are the items we think are necessary to accomplish the analysis of sustainability and cost-benefit (and listed the items in Philipp’s email below).</div>
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4. Now Maarten has responded, "well, an ODP doesn’t cover those things."</div>
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In other words, the Council did not ask for an “ODP,” it requested analysis of financial sustainability and cost-benefit. The Board invented an ODP and then said, it does not apply to the request of the Council. </div>
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In addition, the comment of the Council on the ODP draft was that there be transparency throughout the ODP process. In this most recent letter, the Board essentially states, we will have this consultation now and another when the ODP is complete. With that
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Again I apologize for the not-well-thought out blurt. I will attempt to draft a statement on behalf of the CPH for the meeting and can consult with any of you over the weekend on it. </div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" class="" style="font-size:12pt; color:rgb(31,73,125)">In preparation for our call with the board on Monday, please have a thought  the specific aspects you would like to raise in relation to the launch of the ODP for the SSAD, and share them
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span>FOUQUART Philippe TGI/OLN<span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">
<b class="">Sent:</b><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, February 19, 2021 4:29 PM<br class="">
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<b class="">Subject:</b><span class="x_apple-converted-space"> </span>FW: [CORRESPONDENCE] Maarten Botterman to Philippe Fouquart - EPDP on the Temp Spec for gTLD Registration Data Phase 2<span class="" style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" class="" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Please note the attached response on our EPDP phase 2 letter to the board in advance of our call next week.</span><span class="" style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" class="" style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">This is mostly relative to how we approach the discussion, but I’ll quote the part that deals with the remit of this ODP.</span><span class="" style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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<span lang="EN-GB" class="">The Board also would like to remind the Council that the purpose of the ODP is to assess the operational impact of the SSAD-related policy recommendations on ICANN org and to inform the Board of these impacts prior to the Board's
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<span lang="EN-US" class="">Please find the attached letter from Maarten Botterman regarding the EPDP on the Temporary Specification for gTLD Registration Data Phase 2.</span><span class="" style="font-size:12pt"></span></div>
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