<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Michele,<br><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I did read Matt's email before putting my support across. I also read Alan's reply to Matt which I suggest you also read. <br><br>We can agree to disagree on the positions taken and manner in which those positions have been put forward.</div><br>Regards,<br><br>Justine <br>-----</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, 18 Feb 2019 at 15:32, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>I strongly disagree not only with the position being taken by BC / IPC and supported by ALAC, but even more so by the manner in which it has been put forward.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span>Please read Matt Serlin’s email (<a href="https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2019-February/001692.html" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/pipermail/gnso-epdp-team/2019-February/001692.html</a> )which
clearly articulates why the IPC / BC position is so offensive due to the way that it has been communicated.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<b>To: </b>Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>ICANN list <<a href="mailto:alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org" target="_blank">alac@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>, CPWG <<a href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org" target="_blank">cpwg@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG] [ALAC] Fwd: [Gnso-epdp-team] BC Consensus Call Responses<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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At this juncture, since a 'majority' of CPWG (and ALAC?) has opted to support the ALAC Statement that was submitted, I would venture that any effort to clarify or explicitly lends to ALAC's mandate ... consumer protection, trust, cybersecurity etc ... should
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Further, I see no inconsistency between the ALAC submitted statement and the amendments submitted by IPC/BC to the EPDP Team Final Report and remain guided by you and Hadia as to the actual details which were discussed by the EPDP and agreed or not agreed vs
included in or omitted from the Final Report for whatever reason -- your reply to the "one negative message" refers.<br>
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<i>* I noted that IPC/BC did not hesitate to say they "cannot support" the Final Report without the 5 amendments being made --- it will be interesting to monitor how these amendments will be dealt with by the EPDP.</i><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Thanks Cheryl. If others agree, please speak up QUICKLY. If Internet speed was fast, EPDP speed is even faster and we already have one negative message -
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Thank you for passing this on, from my purely personal perspective, the IPC/BC proposed text amendments to the Final Draft of the EPDP Phase 1 Report, is that they are indeed, as indicated
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif">Firstly, they are it seems to me, in keeping with a few concerns and considerations on some matters raised in your discussions with the CPWG, and also reflecting the views and preferences
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and expectations of the following Phase 2 work of the EPDP Team, in addition to providing valuable timeline information and guidance to the key actors/stakeholders engaged in and affected by GDPR, in the near and medium term and provide both greater surety and
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To: "<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-epdp-team@icann.org" target="_blank">gnso-epdp-team@icann.org</a>><br>
Date: Sun, 17 Feb 2019 17:28:44 +0000<br>
Subject: [Gnso-epdp-team] BC Consensus Call Responses<br>
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Dear Colleagues-<br>
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The BC and IPC members have been working hard over the weekend to develop our response to the consensus call and GNSO Council voting on the
<a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_display_EOTSFGRD_g.-2BDraft-2BFinal-2BReport-3Fpreview-3D_102145109_104237485_EPDP-2520Team-2520Draft-2520Final-2520Report-2520-2D-2520Redline-2520-2D-2520version-252016-2520February-25202019.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=_4XWSt8rUHZPiRG6CoP4Fnk_CCk4p550lffeMi3E1z8&m=JeJV68_XA0ovurRrcT2fYYDnJIRHwZ_8MSTwyFhaG1A&s=8u2KQZGE49aFP7yFTnfWTiuyyqvJR8V9PDy5tnqBRJU&e=" target="_blank">
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The attached response is just 3 pages long, and reflects close collaboration with the IPC, listing five minor amendments to the Final Report in order to obtain BC and IPC support.<br>
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We hope to discuss these items with you this week.<br>
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All the best,<br>
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Margie Milam and Mark Svancarek<br>
BC Representatives on the EPDP<br>
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