<div dir="ltr">Thank you Marita for this concise and helpful summary of the current discussion. Like you I think that if we are to be making advice to the Board it should suggest an alternative approach to an issue of concern rather than disagreeing with what has already been decided or will be discussed in phase 2. Our advice needs to be innovative.<div><br></div><div>My 2c as I unfortunately haven't had enough time in the day to follow all the details.</div><div>Maureen</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 5:32 AM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">For Bastiaan and
anyone else who was not able to make the call, I made the
following points on this issue:</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">1. I am not crazy
about the idea of issuing this advice to the board but, if we
are going to do it, let's make sure we a really good reason to
raise any of these issues.<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">2. I could rationalize
the Thick WhoIs item as there has been new legal advice in the
meantime so we are asking that this advice be given full
consideration.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">3. I can almost
rationalize the Geographic Differentiation" as there seems to
have been a commitment by the Chair that this issue would be
reopened in Phase 2 and it does not appear to be on the agenda.
Also, there has been some new legal opinion. I am not agreeing
with the position but as I understand it, this is a request to
continue the discussion -- as per a commitment that was made.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">4. I am not in favour
of the last item -- requesting a redo on the Legal/Natural
Persons decisions-- it is already covered, as Bastiaan says,
scheduled to be discussed in Phase 2 and our bringing it up in
this way seems like whining. There was a suggestion on the call
that we could ask for a study. I did say that that might make a
difference -- offering something new to the current situation.
But then, I also don't see why that request could not be made
during the discussions.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">In summary, I am not
challenging anyone's position on the substance of these issues.
I am just asking that we <b>make sure</b> there is something
new, something that takes the advice being offered beyond a
complaint on the terms of the report as it currently stands.<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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<div class="gmail-m_5259209128290810746moz-cite-prefix">On 4/4/2019 4:06 AM, Bastiaan Goslings
wrote:<br>
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<pre class="gmail-m_5259209128290810746moz-quote-pre">Thanks a lot, Alan - your and Hadia’s efforts are much appreciated
(I was not on yesterday’s CPWG call so do not know how this was discussed)
It might not come as a surprise, but I do not agree with the advice on ‘Geographic Differentiation’. Both when it comes to the framing/introduction as well as the conclusion. I do not have time to elaborate on this know, but happy to do so later - in the meantime see my previous comments.
I can agree with the 'Thick WHOIS’ concerns - the part on 'Legal/Natural Person Differentiation' seems redundant to me though, this is already covered by rec#17: 'The EPDP Team will determine and resolve the Legal vs. Natural issue in Phase 2’
cheers
Bastiaan
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<pre class="gmail-m_5259209128290810746moz-quote-pre">On 3 Apr 2019, at 15:59, Alan Greenberg <a class="gmail-m_5259209128290810746moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank"><alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca></a> wrote:
Please find attached a draft of the ALAC Advice to the Board related to the EPDP.
Note that the highlighting (inadvertantly missing in the third case) gives two alternative pheasings to be discussed.
Hadia has reviewed it and supports it.
Alan
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