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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">I have a major issue
with that last sentence. The tone of it basically goes straight
back to the "require" language. We are saying that the decisions
made have not been fully informed -- well, after all those hours
of consideration and all the money spent, more information is
probably not the problem.</font></p>
<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Although much of this
statement does hinge around "information" -- new legal, studies,
etc.-- I don't think it is necessary to throw in a final swat at
the GNSO. It really won't help matters or get anyone further
ahead.<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2019 10:01 AM, Sebastien
Bachollet wrote:<br>
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<div class="">Not sure about this</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">GDPR, in rough terms, only
applies to entities within the European Economic Area (EEA)
and to entities outside of the targeting individuals resident
within the EU. </div>
<div>Maybe</div>
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">GDPR, in rough terms, only
applies to entities within the European Economic Area (EEA)
and to entities outside THAT ARE (of the) targeting
individuals resident within the EU. </div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">?????</div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class=""><br class="">
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">And 3 that??</div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">Last sentence </div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; font-size: 9px;
line-height: normal;" class="">
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal;" class=""><b class="">But it is critical that
that, if the Board believes, as the ALAC does, that the
EPDP decisions must take all applicable issues into
consideration and make fully informed decisions, the
Board needs to ensure that this is fully understood by
the GNSO and EPDP. </b></div>
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normal;" class=""><b class=""><br class="">
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<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal;" class=""><b class="">Thanks</b></div>
<div style="margin: 0px; font-stretch: normal; line-height:
normal;" class=""><b class="">SeB</b></div>
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<div class="">Le 15 avr. 2019 à 08:19, Bastiaan Goslings
<<a href="mailto:bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">bastiaan.goslings@ams-ix.net</a>>
a écrit :</div>
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<div class="">Thanks for this - while I personally cannot
support the ratification of the draft advice with a
‘yes’, it does look a lot better than earlier versions.
For now my intention is to ‘abstain’.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
In terms of wording/grammar:<br class="">
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- On page 2, 'At the time the report was issued, there
was also an outstanding question to the EPDP legal
counsel whether ICANN’s presence in the EU imply that
the GDPR apply ALL personal data regardless of location’
(et; )<br class="">
<br class="">
I think it should be ‘implies’ instead of ‘imply’,
‘applies’ in stead of ‘apply’, and there needs to be a
’to’ after the ‘applies’.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
- On page 3, with regard to the advice itself, 'The ALAC
advises the Board to request that the issue of
legal/natural differentiation be discussed during the
EPDP Phase 2 explicitly considering the competing needs
of those using the data for cyber-security and other
legitimate purposes.'<br class="">
<br class="">
From the sentence it is not clear (to me) what the
‘competing’ refers to.<br class="">
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<br class="">
- On page 4, part of the concluding remarks, 'The ALAC
believes that the issues being raised here have not
received sufficient full discussion’.<br class="">
<br class="">
‘Received sufficient full discussion’ sounds strange to
me. Maybe change into ‘The ALAC believes that the issues
being raised here have not been sufficiently discussed’
?<br class="">
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Anyway, thanks again, and with regards<br class="">
Bastiaan<br class="">
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<blockquote type="cite" class="">On 15 Apr 2019, at
08:03, Alan Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
<br class="">
The errors caught by Marita and Sebastien are fixed in
the attached version.<br class="">
<br class="">
Alan<br class="">
<br class="">
At 14/04/2019 04:23 PM, Sebastien Bachollet wrote:<br
class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">And if you fix that
you may withdraw one of the two issues (the word).<br
class="">
SeB<br class="">
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Envoyé de mon iPhone<br class="">
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Le 14 avr. 2019 Ã 20:42, Alan Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>
> a écrit :<br class="">
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">Thanks for catching
that. Will fix. Alan<br class="">
--<br class="">
Sent from my mobile. Please excuse brevity and
typos.<br class="">
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On April 14, 2019 1:44:48 PM EDT, Marita Moll <<a
href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" class=""
moz-do-not-send="true">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>>
wrote:<br class="">
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One of the items still says require...<br class="">
<br class="">
"The ALAC advises the Board require that the issue
of Thick WHOIS issue be discussed during the EPDP
Phase 2 in light of the new legal opinion.<br
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Geographic Differentiation"<br class="">
<br class="">
Marita<br class="">
On 4/14/2019 3:22 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br
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Attached is the final version being voted on by
the ALAC.<br class="">
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It is largely unchanged with the exception of
"require"<br class="">
being changed<br class="">
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<br class="">
back t "request" and an explanatory paragraph at
the end.<br class="">
This was<br class="">
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done after consultation to ensure that we were
not perceived as not<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
understanding Board restrictions and to not give
an "easy"<br class="">
way of<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
rejected the advice ("we don't have that
power").<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
Alan<br class="">
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