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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Well, Evan -- I would
say that, since we don't have much power, we need to keep all
avenues of possible alliances open. That means, no gratuitous
swiping at any group.<br>
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<p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/15/2019 7:13 PM, Evan Leibovitch
wrote:<br>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:#0b5394">On Sun,
14 Apr 2019 at 09:23, Alan Greenberg <<a
href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>>
wrote:<br>
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It is largely unchanged with the exception of "require"
being changed <span class="gmail_default"
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t<span class="gmail_default"
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"request" and an explanatory paragraph at the end. This was
<span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"></span>done
after consultation to ensure that we were not perceived as
not understanding Board restrictions and to no<span
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</span>give an "easy" way of <span class="gmail_default"
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</span>rejected the advice ("we don't have that power").</blockquote>
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<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">Sigh. We really haven't learned
anything, even after decades of experience.</div>
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<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">The Board will reject ALAC advice that
doesn't align with what it's going to do anyway, as it
always does and has done. Why do we care if their rejection
is really easy or slightly less easy?</div>
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">Do the consequences change whether the
answer is "cannot" rather than "will not"?</div>
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<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">Since we're anticipating responses
.... if we said "require" and the Board truly agreed with
our sentiment, it could respond "we're not able to demand it
but we'll do what we can to ensure this important issue is
addressed". Instead, we've toned down the statement before
it even gets to that point.<br>
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<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">Do we feel strongly that Thick WHOIS
is addressed (you must do this in the interest of our
constituency) or not (pretty please, we'll go away silently
if you say no and forget we even asked)?</div>
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<div
style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;color:rgb(11,83,148)"
class="gmail_default">Maybe the problem is mine alone. I
should stop being surprised at ALAC's capacity for
self-debasement.<br>
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class="gmail_default">- Evan</div>
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