<div><div dir="auto">Justine,</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for your kind words and helpful comments.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Unfortunately, the “party” got rained out. The CPWG decided not to approve this statement, whether it covers all the renewals or is limited to .ORG. So nothing is being sent to the ALAC for their consideration. I think it’s a good statement, and it would be made better with your suggestions. I am considering revising this draft, cutting the subject back to .ORG and submitting it individually. Also, circulating it for others to submit — either individually or with multiple signatures.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">In particular, I am concerned there are a number of comments being made that tend to denigrate PIR and ISOC. This is something I would like to counter. [Full disclosure: I am the President of ISOC-NY (an At-Large Structure) and participate here in that capacity. However, I have not yet asked the ISOC-NY Board to consider endorsing this statement, so I am discussing it here in my individual capacity.]. I honestly think much of what has been said about PIR and ISOC has been untrue or exaggerated and fails to to give credit to ISOC for its mission and unique place in the internet ecosystem.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I believe that PIR was hoping for a comment along the lines of our first draft (which I believe they saw on our site) or our second draft. I’m not comfortable leaving PIR and ISOC to be “thrown under the bus” by ill-informed and prejudicial comments. If ALAC will not comment (or more precisely, if the CPWG wont send ALAC a draft comment for their consideration), then it behooves those who support this statement to submit it or use it as a basis for their own comments.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Greg</div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 26, 2019 at 6:02 AM Justine Chew <<a href="mailto:justine.chew@gmail.com">justine.chew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Thanks to Greg Shatan for the 24 April draft statement. <br><br>My comments / suggestion are as follows:-<br><br>1. I wonder if it might be better to prepare (and submit) 2 statements instead of a consolidated one ie. one to address .BIZ, .ORG and .INFO and another for .ASIA.. This is because .ASIA had a "different playing field of no price caps" to begin with and in this way, any concerns about price cap removals for .BIZ, .ORG and .INFO can be addressed squarely in comparison with .NET and with reference to the ALAC's 2017 comment. Given that we don't seem to be offering comments to the inclusion of some RPMs.<br><br>2. In any case, the draft starts with "Background" but doesn't indicate where that backgrounder ends and where the present comment begins.<br><br>3. Related to the point about standardizing RAs as being a good approach, it be useful to draw attention to the use of Addendums as the controlled means for handling necessary variations.<br><br>4. Would it not be incumbent on At-Large to also support (or least comment on) regularizing the inclusion of PICs in these RA renewals (if any)?<br><br>5. As for UA, it's not clear (to me at least) what we want all ROs to do about it at this point. Given community interest on UA has increased further in recent meetings, actual responsibilities might be better framed in due course. So, it may be prudent to tackle the inclusion of UA into the base Registry Agreement by amending Specification 6, or possibly by way of a consensus policy addition in Specification 1, at a later date. </div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-2259064000804484507gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><br>Justine<br><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">(my apologies for being late to the "party")</div><br>-----</div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 at 04:15, Evin Erdogdu <<a href="mailto:evin.erdogdu@icann.org" target="_blank">evin.erdogdu@icann.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.biz+Registry+Agreement" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(0,82,204);background:white">At-Large Workspace:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.org+Registry+Agreement" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(0,82,204);background:white">At-Large Workspace:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://community.icann.org/display/alacpolicydev/At-Large+Workspace%3A+Proposed+Renewal+of+.info+Registry+Agreement" target="_blank"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:rgb(0,82,204);background:white">At-Large Workspace:
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