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  <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">So, perhaps the price
        cap removal could be delayed until after the market impact
        evaluation process that Greg has outlined in the new proposal
        was in place. Otherwise, there is no incentive to actually
        proceed with the process. I realize that evaluation process was
        intended for the .org part of the package but could apply to
        all.</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">That said, I am mostly
        concerned with the impact on .org. I know that some lobby groups
        have gone into overdrive over this issue -- but users don't
        respond to these things unless they truly feel threatened. And
        users have responded in droves. <br class="">
      </font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">If we ignore this,
        whatever the good reasons to release the caps which have been
        put forward here and which I understand, I don't think we are
        listening to end-users.<br class="">
      </font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">Marita</font><br class="">
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    <div class="m_-7513674493541949913m_546367686064404202m_-4173793649815360353gmail-m_581538434978591544moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2019 9:46 AM, Justine Chew
      wrote:<br class="">
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        <div style="font-size:small" class="">Thanks for
          the revised draft, Greg.<br class="">
          <br class="">
          I'd rather hope that we could address all 3 .org, .biz. and
          .info RA renewals in a single statement in an attempt to
          consider inter-connected ramifications and while still
          verbalising support for ISOC without singling out the .org RA
          renewal. <br class="">
          <br class="">
          My personal position is while I don't object to the proposed
          price cap removal because I see some merits in Jonathan's
          explanation, I think it might be worth considering doing so in
          a less abrupt fashion by deferring the price cap removal to
          give potential and existing registrants time/leeway to plan
          for/react to an eventual price cap removal. My proposition
          here has to do more with the <b class="">impact of acquiescing to
            immediate price cap removals</b> <b class="">on the .biz, and .info
            TLDs</b>, and by extension, on .com and .net TLDs
          eventually.   </div>
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                Justine  <br class="">
                -----</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 15:31,
          Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank" class="">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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          <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Dear Greg,<br class="">
            <br class="">
            thanks for this revised draft. However, I deplore that once
            again my proposal of the Registry fees to ICANN following
            inflation is still not integrated to this Statement whilst
            this has received support from CPWG participants and I have
            heard nobody speaking against this.<br class="">
            Kindest regards,<br class="">
            <br class="">
            Olivier<br class="">
            <br class="">
            <div class="m_-7513674493541949913m_546367686064404202m_-4173793649815360353gmail-m_581538434978591544gmail-m_4350872263373718717moz-cite-prefix">On
              30/04/2019 07:14, Greg Shatan wrote:<br class="">
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">All,</div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">I am attaching
                  another, further revised draft public comment on the
                  .ORG renewal, after sifting through the various recent
                  conversations on the list.   I will try to circulate a
                  redline in the morning, New York time, but can't right
                  now.</div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">I thought about
                  including something on UA, but for .ORG and in the
                  absence of proposed language, I did not see the
                  obvious hook in this statement to bring that concept
                  in.</div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</div>
                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class=""><br class="">
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                <div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">Greg</div>
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