<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><font color="#002e7a" class="">I have the same concern as Marita.</font><div class=""><br class=""><div apple-content-edited="true" class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">So, perhaps the price
cap removal could be delayed until after the market impact
evaluation process that Greg has outlined in the new proposal
was in place. Otherwise, there is no incentive to actually
proceed with the process. I realize that evaluation process was
intended for the .org part of the package but could apply to
all.</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">That said, I am mostly
concerned with the impact on .org. I know that some lobby groups
have gone into overdrive over this issue -- but users don't
respond to these things unless they truly feel threatened. And
users have responded in droves. <br class="">
</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">If we ignore this,
whatever the good reasons to release the caps which have been
put forward here and which I understand, I don't think we are
listening to end-users.<br class="">
</font></p><p class=""><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif" class="">Marita</font><br class="">
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<div class="m_-7513674493541949913m_546367686064404202m_-4173793649815360353gmail-m_581538434978591544moz-cite-prefix">On 4/30/2019 9:46 AM, Justine Chew
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<div style="font-size:small" class="">Thanks for
the revised draft, Greg.<br class="">
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I'd rather hope that we could address all 3 .org, .biz. and
.info RA renewals in a single statement in an attempt to
consider inter-connected ramifications and while still
verbalising support for ISOC without singling out the .org RA
renewal. <br class="">
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My personal position is while I don't object to the proposed
price cap removal because I see some merits in Jonathan's
explanation, I think it might be worth considering doing so in
a less abrupt fashion by deferring the price cap removal to
give potential and existing registrants time/leeway to plan
for/react to an eventual price cap removal. My proposition
here has to do more with the <b class="">impact of acquiescing to
immediate price cap removals</b> <b class="">on the .biz, and .info
TLDs</b>, and by extension, on .com and .net TLDs
eventually. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 30 Apr 2019 at 15:31,
Olivier MJ Crépin-Leblond <<a href="mailto:ocl@gih.com" target="_blank" class="">ocl@gih.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" class=""> Dear Greg,<br class="">
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thanks for this revised draft. However, I deplore that once
again my proposal of the Registry fees to ICANN following
inflation is still not integrated to this Statement whilst
this has received support from CPWG participants and I have
heard nobody speaking against this.<br class="">
Kindest regards,<br class="">
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Olivier<br class="">
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">All,</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">I am attaching
another, further revised draft public comment on the
.ORG renewal, after sifting through the various recent
conversations on the list. I will try to circulate a
redline in the morning, New York time, but can't right
now.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">I thought about
including something on UA, but for .ORG and in the
absence of proposed language, I did not see the
obvious hook in this statement to bring that concept
in.</div>
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<div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="">Best regards,</div>
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