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<p>Thanks Greg. We are definitely moving to a much more refined
comment that many are ready to support. However, given the
divisions here, there is no denying that there is still
considerable discomfort in the community re: removing price caps
on .org. To be an honest comment, this should be mentioned.
Justine had something to that effect in her draft. <br>
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<p>re: the economic study - If the work has already been done, then
I suppose all would be ready to launch as soon as the price cap
was off. However, once the price cap is off, it is going to be
hard to put the genie back in the bottle whatever the economic
study says -- so I am not too optimistic. <br>
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<p>On your point about sophisticated lobby groups pushing people
towards action, yes, I've seen this sort of campaign too. And been
cynical about them. But they still have to tap into something deep
to move people to action. So, I don't discount the feeling that
then causes people and groups to access the tools provided to them
to express that feeling. <br>
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<p>Marita<br>
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<div dir="auto">All,</div>
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<div dir="auto">A few responses to the various earlier emails.</div>
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<div dir="auto">@Ricardo, Good point. I think it makes sense to
call for several studies over time, rather than a single
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<div dir="auto">@Olivier, My omission of your contribution was
an oversight, not a conclusion that the view lacked support or
was off-topic. My apologies. I, for one, would be happy to
add something on Registry fees to the draft. Please provide
text or point me to the best iteration of your suggested text
(which I missed, sadly). Or I can take what is in Justine’s
draft.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Personally, I am not in favor of doing an
economic study before removing the price cap. As Jonathan
notes, this work has already been done. My thought was to
have a study done in “real time,” based on observing the
domain name market(s) after the caps were lifted, so that the
effects could be accurately observed and analyzed, and used to
inform future action. Predictive studies are by their nature
speculative, and can more easily be bent in one direction or
the other.. They tend to be more successful and reliable when
the study structure and method is well-understood and
time-tested (e.g., a pre-merger analysis). A predictive study
here may prove far less reliable and useful, given the number
of variables and inputs and the novelty of the study. I also
think it’s an unrealistic request. But as penholder, I will
draft whatever the consensus becomes.</div>
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<div>Thank you, John. I think a consensus call on the
document will be required from this session because
the extension we requested closes soon after and Evin
has to prepare the doc for submission. We can do
ratification by the ALAC after the fact but a recorded
consensus would be helpful.</div>
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<div dir="auto">In the event that you're not at
tomorrow's meeting, do you want me to take any
action on your behalf as vice chair?<br>
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<div dir="ltr">I like this version Greg .
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<div>In case I can't make tomorrow's CPWG
meeting. I believe the new version provides a
good compromise of the different views that
have been presented by the CPWG discussants. I
like the idea of an economic study as well as
Marita's suggestion to delay any change until
the results of such a study were revealed.
<div>I also prefer putting the RAs under one
umbrella statement. The separate .asia
statement reinforces support for the
inclusion of UA. Anything else that is
relevant would be in the general ALAC RA
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am attaching another, further revised
draft public comment on the .ORG renewal,
after sifting through the various recent
conversations on the list. I will try to
circulate a redline in the morning, New
York time, but can't right now.</div>
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thought about including something on UA,
but for .ORG and in the absence of
proposed language, I did not see the
obvious hook in this statement to bring
that concept in.</div>
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