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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks Justine and
        Greg for putting together this document which I think is
        excellent. Whatever the massaging to finalize item 3 below, in
        the end, it honestly represents our discussions. Grateful to you
        both for this work.</font></p>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/1/2019 11:31 AM, Justine Chew
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              <div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">All,<br>
                <br>
                Firstly, I note that there may well be more than 1 email
                thread within the CPWG mail list discussing the .ORG RA
                renewal (and/or other RA renewals). So, there is a
                certainly the chance I have not been able to follow
                every one of them.<br>
                <br>
                Secondly, I am responding (partly) to <b>Bastiaan's and
                  Holly's</b> request for a re-draft of Greg's 30 April
                draft, and <b>Olivier's</b> request regarding registry
                fees payable to ICANN Org, which I have (almost)
                completed, and attach herewith is my two-cents' worth
                copy of the re-draft (marked as v4, and both redlined
                and clean copies). The reasons I say "partly" and
                "almost" are as follows:-<br>
                <br>
                1. I have removed all references to .asia as there is an
                existing draft statement specifically for the .asia RA
                renewal, prepared by <b>Maureen</b>.<br>
                <br>
                2. Thanking Greg for incorporating my suggestion to
                include a reference in support of the regularization of
                PICs into the proposed RA renewals, I have since
                suggested that we also support the regularization of a
                few other aspects in the RA renewals. These, including
                that of PICs, are set out under section (I) of the copy.<br>
                <br>
                3. In respect of price cap debate, I have now set out
                the different opinions and bases in section (II)
                including a third which suggests a deferment of the
                price cap removal with conditions. However, section (II)
                is incomplete because:-<br>
                (a) As this point, I still do not know the conclusion
                for the group supporting removing price caps.  <br>
                (b) I will qualify by saying that I do not know if the
                suggestion to defer removal is intrinsically linked to
                one (or more) request for economic study or not. Instead
                I have based the deferment suggestion on the notion of
                fairness. <br>
                <br>
                As such, the key portions touching on these two points
                are marked in yellow highlights for ease of locating.<br>
                <br>
                4. I have included under section (III) the request for
                registry fees payable to ICANN Org to be adjusted for
                inflation on an <u>annual basis and for this adjustment
                  to also be adopted in the base RA</u>. Olivier/others
                should indicate whether section (III) is acceptable.<br>
                <br>
                5. I have also included under section (IV) a comment
                about UA which I think is general enough to be
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                      <b style="font-size:small">I am handing this v4
                        over to Greg for settling since he is the
                        designated penholder in this case. Thanks, Greg!</b><br>
                      <br>
                      Thank you all in advance for your consideration. I
                      am hoping that the attachments will get through
                      the mailing list. If not, please refer to the
                      relevant wiki workspace: <br>
                      <a href="https://community.icann.org/x/-oSGBg"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/x/-oSGBg</a><br>
                      <br>
                      Justine Chew </div>
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 1 May 2019 at
              16:49, Jonathan Zuck <<a
                href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>>
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                  despite presumptive renewal, ICANN is under no
                  obligation to renew<br>
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                    Zuck<br>
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                  <div dir="auto"
style="direction:ltr;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">Executive
                    Director<br>
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                  <div dir="auto"
style="direction:ltr;margin:0px;padding:0px;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:11pt;color:black">Innovators
                    Network Foundation<br>
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                      href="http://www.Innovatorsnetwork.org"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.Innovatorsnetwork.org</a></div>
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                  dir="ltr"><font style="font-size:11pt" face="Calibri,
                    sans-serif" color="#000000"><b>From:</b> GTLD-WG
                    <<a
                      href="mailto:gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gtld-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org</a>>
                    on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<a
                      href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 1, 2019 12:43:12 AM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> Greg Shatan; Maureen Hilyard<br>
                    <b>Cc:</b> CPWG<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [GTLD-WG] [CPWG]
                    [registration-issues-wg] Further Revised Draft
                    Statement on .ORG Renewal</font>
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                <div>The problem with a post-removal study is what do
                  you do if you find things have gone south. What is the
                  recourse?<br>
                  <br>
                  Alan<br>
                  <br>
                  At 30/04/2019 12:50 PM, Greg Shatan wrote:<br>
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class="gmail-m_-3239600721047641568gmail-m_-9187181929057544551gmail-m_7925212116244348838cite">All,<br>
                    <br>
                    A few responses to the various earlier emails.<br>
                    <br>
                    @Ricardo, Good point.  I think it makes sense to
                    call for several studies over time, rather than a
                    single study.<br>
                    <br>
                    @Olivier, My omission of your contribution was an
                    oversight, not a conclusion that the view lacked
                    support or was off-topic.  My apologies. I, for one,
                    would be happy to add something on Registry fees to
                    the draft.  Please provide text or point me to the
                    best iteration of your suggested text (which I
                    missed, sadly).  Or I can take what is in
                    Justine’s draft.<br>
                    <br>
                    Personally, I am not in favor of doing an economic
                    study before removing the price cap.  As Jonathan
                    notes, this work has already been done.  My thought
                    was to have a study done in â€œreal time,†based on
                    observing the domain name market(s) after the caps
                    were lifted, so that the effects could be accurately
                    observed and analyzed, and used to inform future
                    action.  Predictive studies are by their nature
                    speculative, and can more easily be bent in one
                    direction or the other.. They tend to be more
                    successful and reliable when the study structure and
                    method is well-understood and time-tested (e.g., a
                    pre-merger analysis).  A predictive study here may
                    prove far less reliable and useful, given the number
                    of variables and inputs and the novelty of the
                    study.  I also think it’s an unrealistic request. 
                    But as penholder, I will draft whatever the
                    consensus becomes.<br>
                    <br>
                    Greg<br>
                    <br>
                    On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 12:11 PM Maureen Hilyard
                    <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                      target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                      maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                    <dl>
                      <dd>Thank you, John. I think a consensus call on
                        the document will be required  from this session
                        because the extension we requested closes soon
                        after and Evin has to prepare the doc for
                        submission. We can do ratification by the ALAC
                        after the fact but a recorded consensus would be
                        helpful.<br>
                        <br>
                        <br>
                      </dd>
                      <dd>M <br>
                        <br>
                      </dd>
                      <dd>On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 5:50 AM John Laprise
                        <<a href="mailto:jlaprise@gmail.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">jlaprise@gmail.com</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
                        <dl>
                          <dd>Maureen,<br>
                            <br>
                          </dd>
                          <dd>In the event that you're not at tomorrow's
                            meeting, do you want me to take any action
                            on your behalf as vice chair?<br>
                            <br>
                          </dd>
                          <dd>Sent from my Pixel 3XL<br>
                            <br>
                          </dd>
                          <dd>John Laprise, Ph.D.<br>
                            <br>
                          </dd>
                          <dd>On Tue, Apr 30, 2019, 9:59 AM Maureen
                            Hilyard <<a
                              href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
                              maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
                            <dl>
                              <dd>I like this version Greg .<br>
                                <br>
                              </dd>
                              <dd>In case I can't make tomorrow's CPWG
                                meeting.  I believe the new version
                                provides a good compromise of the
                                different views that have been presented
                                by the CPWG discussants. I like the idea
                                of an economic study as well as Marita's
                                suggestion to delay any change until the
                                results of such a study were revealed.<br>
                              </dd>
                              <dd>I also prefer putting the RAs under
                                one umbrella statement. The separate
                                .asia statement reinforces support for
                                the inclusion of UA. Anything else that
                                is relevant would be in the general ALAC
                                RA statement.<br>
                                <br>
                              </dd>
                              <dd>On Mon, Apr 29, 2019 at 8:14 PM Greg
                                Shatan <<a
                                  href="mailto:greg@isoc-ny.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">greg@isoc-ny.org</a>>
                                wrote:<br>
                                <dl>
                                  <dd>All,<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </dd>
                                  <dd>I am attaching another, further
                                    revised draft public comment on the
                                    .ORG renewal, after sifting through
                                    the various recent conversations on
                                    the list.   I will try to circulate
                                    a redline in the morning, New York
                                    time, but can't right now.<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </dd>
                                  <dd>I thought about including
                                    something on UA, but for .ORG and in
                                    the absence of proposed language, I
                                    did not see the obvious hook in this
                                    statement to bring that concept in.<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </dd>
                                  <dd>Best regards,<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </dd>
                                  <dd>Greg<br>
                                    <br>
                                  </dd>
                                  <dd><font face="trebuchet ms">Greg
                                      Shatan</font><br>
                                  </dd>
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                                  <dd>President, ISOC-NY<br>
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                    <font face="trebuchet ms">Greg Shatan</font><br>
                    <font face="trebuchet ms"><a
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