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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Thanks. Excellent
        material. It goes a long way to addressing the shifting ground
        that has got ICANN to this point. I think that some of the white
        paper on future challenges does and should be used in our
        current discussions re the MS model. Currently, there is a
        proposal in the intergroup issues that suggests that power
        imbalances need to be addressed -- but it could be put in a
        larger frame as something that cuts across structural and
        process issues as well.<br>
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    <p>Marita</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/21/2019 3:46 PM, Evan Leibovitch
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 14:06,
          Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net"
            moz-do-not-send="true">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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            <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">If anyone
                would point me to the two white papers that Evan
                mentions in his message below, it would be a useful
                addition to our submission to be able to reference
                these.</font></p>
            <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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            <div class="gmail-m_4577485599135182954moz-cite-prefix">On
              5/18/2019 4:37 PM, Alan Greenberg wrote:<br>
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            <blockquote type="cite"> Evan, as much as some people (and I
              count myself among them) feel that the overall ICANN model
              needs to be changed to address the types of issues you
              list in your bullet points below, that is not what this
              exercise is about. <br>
              <br>
              As the name implies, this is <u>evolution</u> to increase
              the effectiveness of the current model and not a complete
              reorg. That may make it less than useful in the minds of
              some, but that is what it is.<br>
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              It is not the only such exercise going on. There is one
              purely within the GNSO which addresses some of these same
              problems but has the potential for worsening some things
              (including participation of non-GNSO groups/entities which
              some view as impeding the PDP process).<br>
              <br>
              Is this current process sufficient to address the larger
              problems? No (in my mind). But can it provide useful
              change without increasing the overall structural problems?
              I hope so.<br>
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              Alan<br>
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              At 18/05/2019 01:58 PM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:<br>
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                class="gmail-m_4577485599135182954cite">Hi Marita,<br>
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                I apologize for not making the call. I am very
                interested in this topic, but even more interested in
                not having my time wasted.<br>
                <br>
                As has been expressed before, I am extremely skeptical
                that the status quo can be disrupted purely from the
                inside.  There have been quite a few exercises of this
                kind before, even high profile moves such as the ATRT
                and independence from the US government have been
                tortuous but led to little real change in the way
                decisions are made. I could even make the case that the
                IANA transition has worsened the status of stakeholders
                outside the compact of domain buyers and domain sellers.
                What is the assurance (or even broad confidence) that
                the results of any new work would be heeded?  What are
                the consequences to ICANN of yet again ignoring the
                calls to distribute power more broadly or address its
                many fundamental breeches of public trust?<br>
                <br>
                There are a few key components of ICANN governance that,
                so long as they exist, render all talk of real change
                aspirational at best.
                <ul>
                  <li>So long as GNSO consensus policy binds the ICANN
                    Board, the rest of us are essentially powerless. </li>
                  <li>So long as ICANN's revenue comes solely from
                    domain acquisition, it is by definition in a
                    conflict of interest in setting domain policy. </li>
                  <li>So long as domain sellers sit on both sides of the
                    negotiating table in development of the RAA and
                    other instruments of domain regulation, ICANN cannot
                    be trusted to act impartially. </li>
                  <li>So long ICANN is accountable to nobody but its
                    core conflicted community, it will successfully
                    resist change. "Empowered" my eye. </li>
                </ul>
                ALAC has diligently participated in multiple previous
                "fix the MSM" efforts which have yielded no significant
                result. Two white papers produced by ALAC members were
                ignored without so much as acknowledgement of their
                existence. In this context, exactly how serious is this
                latest iteration? A new turnover of ALAC members
                provides fresh hope and maybe even new insights, but
                lack of institutional memory simply indicates new
                iterations of old efforts that have proven to fail. We
                hit the most solid of walls whenever intention tries to
                turn to execution.<br>
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                This just feels so much like ICANN is Lucy and ALAC is
                Charlie Brown. Maybe if we try kicking the football
                again, this time it will work.....<br>
                <br>
                What's different this time?<br>
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                - Evan<br>
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                  <div style="text-align:left">Evan Leibovitch, <span
                      style="font-size:12.8px">Toronto Canada</span></div>
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                      style="font-size:12.8px">@evanleibovitch or </span><span
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