<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">Hello all,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I must admit I do not know what this means for the long term financial stability of ISOC, if ISOC has sold its only source of income.</div><div dir="auto">I need to read more about the details of the deal before forming an opinion.</div><div dir="auto">Kindest regards,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Olivier</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000" dir="auto"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Justine Chew <justine.chew@gmail.com> </div><div>Date: 14/11/2019 08:02 (GMT+05:30) </div><div>To: Maureen Hilyard <maureen.hilyard@gmail.com> </div><div>Cc: CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>, Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca> </div><div>Subject: Re: [CPWG] [registration-issues-wg] Fwd: ISOC sells PIR </div><div><br></div></div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">It is an outright sale of an asset, the proceeds of which go toward "an endowment fund" for ISOC projects/activities. No revenue sharing is involved.<br><br>The announcement indicated that all projects and operations will continue as is under new ownership. With its policy on public/community benefit presumably driven and overseen by Ethos Capital's Stewardship Council - I wonder who they will put on this Council.<br><br>PIR under Ethos Capital will lose its non-for-profit status, so there might be financial implication not to ISOC but possibly PIR's existing .org customers/registrants.<br><br>We shall see.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br>Justine </font><br>-----</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu, 14 Nov 2019 at 10:21, Maureen Hilyard <<a href="mailto:maureen.hilyard@gmail.com">maureen.hilyard@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">As Eduardo said there are lots of unknowns at present. Who knows?</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 13 Nov 2019, 3:02 PM Alan Greenberg, <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Why will it have major implications on ISOC Chapters?<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 13/11/2019 02:52 PM, Maureen Hilyard wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">I know for sure that this was not even hinted at during the last PIR Advisory Council meeting.. but it will have major implications for the ISOC chapters. What are they/ISOC thinking?<br>
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Maureen <br>
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On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 7:59 AM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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<dd>Had we known this was lurking in the background -- which it most certainly was at the time -- it might have been a different discussion. How much did ISOC know and when did they know it -- a question ISOC chapters might want to ask.<br>
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</dd><dd> I must say, this casts the decision to drop price caps for .org in a slightly different light. I will keep you posted as I learn more.<br>
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