<div><div dir="auto">The rationale and the scope of the request don’t really fit together.  By definition, the request only includes (1) accounting books and records and (2) meeting minutes for the Board and its committees.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">“Accounting books and records” is not likely to be construed broadly. Financial records, ledgers, bank statements, financial statements and other similar stuff is good for looking for financial shenanigans. May not be worth much here. Minutes is (are?) also fairly specific. Neither category provides an obvious or self-explanatory path to getting anything submitted by ISOC, PIR or Ethos, or any internal ICANN documents that are not obviously financial accounting documents. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">While it could still be a worthwhile request, its limited scope should be understood.  </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would also like to know who we are really supporting if we support this. Maybe Jonathan is wrong and this is merely a sincere, self-generated concern of the RIRs. Or maybe there is another organization behind this. If it’s the latter, I’d like to know who we’re getting in bed with, so to speak.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Greg</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><br></div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Jan 3, 2020 at 11:20 AM Marita Moll <<a href="mailto:mmoll@ca.inter.net">mmoll@ca.inter.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Let's do that</font></p></div><div>
    <p><font face="Times New Roman, Times, serif">Marita</font><br>
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    <div>On 1/3/2020 10:59 AM,
      <a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a> wrote:<br>
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      <div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">I agree with Evan's
        assessment …
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        <div>CW<br>
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              <div>On 3 Jan 2020, at 01:37, Evan Leibovitch
                <<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank">evan@telly.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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                  <div>It does make our lives easier. We can
                    now simply back up the rationale of the NRO action
                    and request that ICANN give serious attention to the
                    public interest consequences of the transfer.
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                      <div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" dir="auto">___________________<br>
                        Evan Leibovitch, Toronto<br>
                        @evanleibovitch/@el56</div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Thu., Jan. 2,
                        2020, 4:17 p.m. Jonathan Zuck, <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org" target="_blank">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>>
                        wrote:<br>
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                            I suspect, from reading how carefully this
                            is worded, that EFF is behind this. Very
                            interesting tactic.
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                                Jonathan Zuck<br>
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                                Executive Director<br>
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                                Innovators Network Foundation<br>
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                                <a href="http://www.innovatorsnetwork.org/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.Innovatorsnetwork.org</a></div>
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                              CPWG <<a href="mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cpwg-bounces@icann.org</a>>
                              on behalf of Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January
                              1, 2020 12:59:15 PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>
                              <<a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>>;
                              <a href="mailto:cpwg@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">cpwg@icann.org</a>
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [CPWG] PIR
                              sale…</font>
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                          <div>Thanks Christopher.<br>
                            <br>
                            Unless I missed something, this is a rather
                            historic action. It is the FIRST time the
                            accountability powers given to the ICANN
                            community with its new Bylaws have been used
                            in a proactive way, and by the part of the
                            ICANN Community least expected to intervene
                            when not directly impacted. <br>
                            <br>
                            Alan<br>
                            <br>
                            <br>
                            At 01/01/2020 08:51 AM, <a href="mailto:lists@christopherwilkinson.eu" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">lists@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>
                            wrote:<br>
                            <blockquote type="cite">FYI<br>
                              <br>
                              <a href="https://circleid.us15.list-manage.com/track/click?u=71b27c0808a16ff6f58bfc4fc&id=e1426faeb7&e=0b1201fc7b" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">The
                                Number Resource Organization (NRO)
                                Issues Inspection Request to ICANN
                                Concerning the .ORG Sale</a><br>
                              <br>
                              CW<br>
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