<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">I've heard the following argument used multiple times now to justify the transaction ...<div><br></div><div>"<span style="color:rgb(112,112,112);font-family:proxima-soft;font-size:18px;letter-spacing:0.18000000715255737px;white-space:pre-wrap;background-color:rgb(250,250,250)">transaction is designed and intended to serve the public interest in two distinct ways: (1) by ensuring the long-term growth and development of the .ORG domain, and (2) by providing essential support for the ongoing work of the Internet Society.</span>"</div><div><br></div><div>Can anyone tell me why .ORG "growth" benefits anyone other than Ethos? Am I missing something? </div><div><br></div><div>I have not yet seen any argument that this transaction benefits end users, however, I have seen added risks to end users by changing the future role that PIR would play in the Internet ecosystem. </div><div><br></div><div>Cheers!</div><div>David</div></div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 7, 2020 at 8:34 PM Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hello Justine,<br><br><div>Sent from my mobile<br>Kindly excuse brevity and typos</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 00:41 Justine Chew, <<a href="mailto:justine.chew@gmail.com" target="_blank">justine.chew@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>I am not going to venture into the debate about price of .org domain, renewal or otherwise.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: +1</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">More importantly, it seems to me that the chances of ICANN negotiating to get, at minimum, all these expressed commitments incorporated in an amendment to the .org RA are pretty high, given that ISOC, PIR and Ethos Capital have all jointly announced them.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/the-internet-society-pir-and-ethos-respond-to-congressional-letter" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/the-internet-society-pir-and-ethos-respond-to-congressional-letter</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a href="https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/commentary-what-makes-ethos-capital-a-responsible-steward-of-pir" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.keypointsabout.org/blog/commentary-what-makes-ethos-capital-a-responsible-steward-of-pir</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">And if ICANN doesn't succeed fairly immediately, that would give us some indication of the integrity of that tripartite relationship.</div></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">SO: Has ICANN indicated officially that they will be engaging in such a negotiation (which can only be review of .org contract)? Will appreciate reference to that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Justine</div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, 8 Jan 2020, 07:06 Alberto soto, <<a href="mailto:alberto@soto.net.ar" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">alberto@soto.net.ar</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>
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