<div dir="ltr">Maybe a bonanza for lawyers, but also it also comes with tarnished reputations for .ORG, PIR, iSOC, Andrew Sullivan, etc. <div><br></div><div>It's hard to understand why the iSOC organization is pushing back against strong community resistance. </div><div><br></div><div>So much for consensus building with the multistakeholder model. Maybe we're headed back towards the days of pre-ICANN Internet Governance with the associated financial costs and time-delays to resolve disputes. </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 9:54 AM Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I don't see how a proposal to ICANN can imply $ to ISOC. The only way I can interpret this is as Evan has: an outright cancellation of the agreement by ICANN and re-delegate to the new corp.<br>
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An interesting concept, but if nothing else, the resultant lawsuits would likely to be a bonanza for lawyers...<br>
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Alan<br>
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At 08/01/2020 09:25 AM, Evan Leibovitch wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">From what I can gather from what's been written so far, they're going to demand ICANN to simply re-delegate the registry to them and leave ISOC with nothing (though the actual proposal to ICANN may be different and
indeed include compensation of some sort). Looks like they want to make the case that .ORG is a resource that needs a custodian rather than commodity that can be tossed around at will. It's comprised of an interesting group that includes ICANN's first president
and the USG person in charge of handing TLD control to it.<br>
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On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 07:05, Jacqueline Morris <<a href="mailto:jam@jacquelinemorris.com" target="_blank">jam@jacquelinemorris.com</a> > wrote:<br>
<dl><dd>Hi Evan<br>
</dd><dd>Do you know if there is a monetary value on this bid that is public yet? Will it give ISOC the endowment that it is looking for?<br>
</dd><dd>Jacqueline A. Morris<br>
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<a href="http://twitter.com/chrislehmann" target="_blank">Chris Lehmann</a> )<br>
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</dd><dd>On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 3:27 AM Evan Leibovitch <<a href="mailto:evan@telly.org" target="_blank">evan@telly.org</a>> wrote:<br>
<dl><dd>Looks like Esther Dyson and others are forming a co-operative to offer an alternative bid to Ethos:<br>
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</dd><dd><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/dot-org-private-equity-battle.html" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/technology/dot-org-private-equity-battle.html</a>
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</dd><dd>It is unfortunate that the proposed alternative is yet another US corporation, though the bulk of .ORG registrants are American so this will likely be unchallenged.<br>
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</dd><dd>Chance of ISOC accepting to even evaluate this alternative bid without pressure is slim given that many deals like Ethos' contain penalties for backing out. But the pressure is certainly there, and not abating.
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