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<p class="MsoNormal">Agree with John McCormac that we need to be careful not to refer to domain squatting AS DNS Abuse, that’s all. There’s definitely high concern about the more than 6k covid related domains that have been purchased but we’ll lose credibility
by suggesting the mere registration of a name is DNS Abuse. We just have a list of URLs to watch for abuse, that’s all.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Sebicann Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr><br>
<b>Date: </b>Monday, March 30, 2020 at 12:18 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>Jonathan Zuck <JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Sebicann Bachollet <sebicann@bachollet.fr>, Joanna Kulesza <jkuleszaicann@gmail.com>, "cpwg@icann.org" <cpwg@icann.org><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [CPWG] Domain Name Abuse... potentially<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 27 mars 2020 à 16:03, Jonathan Zuck <<a href="mailto:JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org">JZuck@innovatorsnetwork.org</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It’s a bit like war profiteering. It’s disgusting but not really illegal and probably shouldn’t be. Buying up domains with a likely value isn’t itself DNS Abuse or even DNS “Misuse,” in ANY way. I would argue that these are domains more
likely meant for resale than abuse although if the powers that be refuse to pay a premium, they might get used that way. Let’s be VERY careful about how we position ourselves on this lest we lose the modicum of credibility we have gained the past year. There’s
a LOT of actual DNS Abuse taking advantage of this crisis, so let’s focus on that and continue in our efforts to combat systemic abuse, support predictive analytics, etc. This is a very dangerous path. If anything, it suggests that a restricted domain like
.OLYMPICS would be a good idea.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">CPWG <<a href="mailto:cpwg-bounces@icann.org">cpwg-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of Joanna Kulesza <<a href="mailto:jkuleszaicann@gmail.com">jkuleszaicann@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Friday, March 27, 2020 at 4:00 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [CPWG] Domain Name Abuse... potentially</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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but it could be a good place to start. One way of approaching this would be to look at all the "norms" already out there: legal, as you mention, Wolfgang, but also standards based, as have been named in previous threads. Finding a common ground between and
among these (starting with the "used up" example of child porn or the always controversial IP protection) could be a start.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Looking forward to continuing this thread. Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">It is an investment for the buyer and an abuse for the victim.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As the Tokyo 2020 Olympics are postponed to 2021, domain name pirates jumped on the occasion to make a quick buck.<span class="apple-converted-space"> </span><br>
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