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Dear Colleagues,<br>
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you might be interested to read the advice below that was sent by
the ISOC Chapter Advisory Council Chair to the ISOC Board of
Trustees. <font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">
Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: </span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Second
Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos Capital</a><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> is particularly pertinent in the context of the ICANN decision to be made in regards to the sale of the Public Interest Registry, PIR.
As ISOC does not appear to have the same transparency</span></font></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">when it comes to the correspondence it receives as ICANN does, the Statement does not appear on any ISOC sanctioned Web site. </span></font></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Should the ICANN Board be made aware of this advice from Chapters in a formal way or should Chapters inform the ICANN Board directly themselves? </span></font></div></blockquote></div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">On transparency and on the difference between ICANN and ISOC in the style of working, we could say that <span style="font-family:sans-serif">ISOC has its own conventions. </span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">In this matter pertaining to Chapter AC advice, CHAC could ask the BoT if the Chapter advice is cross referenced in any of the BoT correspondence with ICANN, and if not, if it would please the BoT to direct Staff to forward the Chapter advice to ICANN for information, without comment.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">The Chapter advice is otherwise more of an internal process, as an advice to BoT. ChAC, even if constituted as a Constituency may not step out independently to engage directly with organizations outside, and it may not exactly be in order to directly write to organizations outside, except to ask, persuade and sometimes even force the BoT to take note of it's positions, record, publish and even publicize.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">I am not sure if the legal point of view would be the same.</span></div><div dir="auto"><span style="font-family:sans-serif"><br></span></div><div dir="auto">Sivasubramanian M</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">I am mindful of not mixing Chapters & ALSes.
Kindest regards,
Olivier
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<td>[Chapter-delegates] ChAC-SC Advise notice</td>
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<td>Eduardo Diaz via Chapter-delegates
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<td>Gonzalo Camarillo
<a href="mailto:Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><Gonzalo.Camarillo@ericsson.com></a>, Kevin Craemer
<a href="mailto:Craemer@isoc.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><Craemer@isoc.org></a></td>
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Chapter Delegates
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<a href="mailto:INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil@connectedcommunity.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">INTERNETSOCIETY-chapteradvisorycouncil@connectedcommunity.org</a>,
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Distinguished
Members of the Board:<span></span></font></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">The Chapter Advisory Council Steering Committee (ChAC-SC) is submitting the following advice for your consideration:<span></span></font></span></p>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Advice 2020.04.17-01 :: </span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Second
Advice on PIR Sales to Ethos
Capital</a><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span></font></li>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0);white-space:normal" face="verdana, sans-serif"><b>Advice</b>: </font><span style="white-space:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>“We reiterate that the sale of PIR to Ethos Capital should not proceed until, unless proscribed by law, the following conditions are met, and the ISOC Board has taken into account the comments received after the information requested below is made public”</i></span></span></font></font></li>
<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="white-space:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span>Text link: <a href="http://goog_419103278" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">(</a></span></font><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.box.com/s/w2iaod4kb738thlm1a0ollli00saze8q)</a></font></li>
<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Approved by 68%
of the 73 chapters that
participated</font></li>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Advice </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">2020.04.17-02 :: </span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim" style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(149,79,114)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Second Advice on</a><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"> </span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/iscylezdnkevpk5gc3v5ah5kkvommuim" style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(149,79,114)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">ISOC Constituencies Consultation</a><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><br>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"><b>Advice</b>: </span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>“Initiate
a process to change the
ISOC Bylaws so that the
current communities that
elect Trustees (that is,
the Organizational
Members, the Chapters,
and the IETF) are
considered as
constituencies and so
that they must be
consulted prior to any
major financial and
strategically
significant operational
decisions being taken ”</i></span></font>
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<li><font face="verdana,
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Advice 2020-04-17-03 ::</span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><font color="#954f72"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Second Advice on</span></font><span> </span><font color="#954f72"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">Bylaws Changes</span></font></a><br>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif"><b>Advice</b>: <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><i>“We
reiterate that the Board
charters a small group
comprised of members of
the Board and members of
the Advisory Committees
(ACs) to consider
possible changes to
ISOC’s Bylaws that would
strengthen the roles of
the ACs in general and
the Chapters in
particular.”</i></span></font>
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<li><font face="verdana,
sans-serif">Text link: (<a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.box.com/s/ympdg0y1j8tpz4t1zqgol9hwmn1gdui8</a>)</font></li>
<li><font face="verdana,
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by 90% of the 73 chapters
that participated</span><br>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal"><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">A total of 73 chapters (68% of 107 with assigned delegates or 58% of 126 active) participated in the vote call during the period 21 April 2020 to 28 April 2020, inclusive. </span></font></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">The
vote was quorate by 384%
(73/19). </span></font></p>
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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><span style="font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal"><font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">A detailed list of the chapters that voted can be found in the following link: </span><span style="white-space:pre-wrap"></span></font></span><span><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/ct67lgxxf8e4mermrrijw0yz0cg5ngj1" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.box.com/s/ct67lgxxf8e4mermrrijw0yz0cg5ngj1</a> and v</span><font style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34)">ote
results in the following
one: </span></font><a href="https://isoc.box.com/s/e4o3osfys4xmn1a8exva7nxvyvij4i5z" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://isoc.box.com/s/e4o3osfys4xmn1a8exva7nxvyvij4i5z</a><span>. The actual vote was
anonymous.</span></font></p>
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