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thanks and yes, you are right. There is a reference point to the GA letter. But my reading is, that the Board gave priority to the multi-stakeholder input, which included by the way next to a number of CS organisations as Access Now also the Special Rapporteurs on Privacy and Freedom of Expression of the UN Human Rights Council and the French Digital Ambassador, two other governmental based letters. However, I am afraid, that the troubled water is not behind us. Thunderstorms are on the horizon.
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight <michele@blacknight.com> hat am 1. Mai 2020 um 12:51 geschrieben:
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal">That’s not entirely true. The blog post explicitly references the AG letter:</p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal">Regards</p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">From: </span></strong><span style="font-size: 12.0pt; color: black;">CPWG <cpwg-bounces@icann.org> on behalf of Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info><br><strong>Reply to: </strong>Wolfgang Kleinwächter <wolfgang@kleinwaechter.info><br><strong>Date: </strong>Friday 1 May 2020 at 11:48<br><strong>To: </strong>Vittorio Bertola <vb@bertola.eu>, Vittorio Bertola via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org>, Evan Leibovitch <evan@telly.org><br><strong>Subject: </strong>Re: [CPWG] Sale of .ORG REJECTED </span></p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal">1+ to Vittorio. The issue of "jurisdiction" will come back soon. And all options will be on the table again. If Ethos & Co. will go to court, we will have the situation, that a Californian Court will claim that it has the final decision making power over ICANN. As Jonathan has argued in his CircleID article, this would trigger the re-opening of a discussion on "ICANN oversight". The IANA transition ended US government oversight over ICANN and gave all the oversight powers to the "empowered community". If now a Californian court tops the empowered community (regardless if the court decision is "yes" or "no"), governments will come back and asking the question, why the final word over the management of a global public ressouce is in the hands of a US based Californian Court. And the whole "multistakeholder model" and the concept of the "empowered community" will be questioned again.</p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal">In justifying its decision yesterday, the Board was wise enough to refer to the "30 letters of stakeholders". It did not mentioned explicitly the letter of the Californian GA. This sends a clear message to the broader public, that the Board sees its decision as an outcome of a broad based bottom up multistakehoder process and not as a "yes Sir" with a regard to one "big letter". But I am afraid that this is not the end of the story. Probably this is the start of a new beginning. </p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 12.0pt;" class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal">Vittorio Bertola via CPWG <cpwg@icann.org> hat am 1. Mai 2020 um 08:20 geschrieben:</p>
<p>Il 2020-05-01 05:05 Evan Leibovitch ha scritto:</p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma',sans-serif; color: #0b5394;">I think ICANN did the less bad thing it could do, and in the overall this is the best choice for all of us who own a .org. </span></p>
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<p class="ox-041c033f18-MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma',sans-serif; color: #0b5394;">At the same time, this really casts shadows over the credibility of the IANA Transition, and ICANN will have to think at how to better insulate itself from any direct governmental control. Starting from twenty years ago, a range of solutions has been proposed, from moving to classic neutral countries (e.g. Switzerland) to establishing a U.N.-style host country agreement with the U.S. I'm sure that many countries will raise this issue again. </span></p>
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