[Ctn-crosscom] Mp3, Attendance & AC Chat for CWG-UCTN WG call

Mon Oct 3 16:25:42 UTC 2016

Dear All,

Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday, 3 October 2016 at 12:00 UTC at: <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__mailer.samanage.com_wf_click-3Fupn-3DNrFWbrBstcrPWP369qgbqlXiSKeL20xnUXzI03Zqpst92-2D2Bl0qQ6AdvcbMCowTFn5d5m1CnZI-2D2BhK1j57aFGMDIw-2D3D-2D3D-5FbE-2D2FoTL3xpeyRVrNxqAJXQ5-2D2Fc3sJwLoyf3pmXa1IzazbYz4-2D2Bd8qa-2D2FJrWpKIptw4WpH-2D2Bv8N5ihUeILy8hhfEZ0k6OieCmGDkoU70IAQv3trcfxXtX-2D2Fhd24YsmyQp3NfZxV31qsIoSxEQ7NTVGcmRDBW7rOASOzkff5omc3A312aJ5wC9bvbyLTK-2D2BKSpSUrB1hSFK1szuQqG7gm7yOeBTXeWxNvg8rYQDUxuDrTnS1V5lqPHoqsUKchtF1FLzjKzqyYdkQSOCc7RvLTgfm3BBWv0n1WcDn-2D2BbDw7D6KwdhytiiCJdFzKMGNU9HRkTesyjmzKmnOMdtDq6VMnPamDfhJVCDKHH37X6KIFjTJZROQpucXayr5Hy5pkIYyGg09ojxofbWDLcrv9TQRFBfrojGtfU2LXd8OeW8mk5lHLUGtxL5gw-2D2B4RY9Me1ZH-2D2BU8-2D2FzC010TM5tkHBpCQZK7Hqb3ej7oTgFiEbW0hqy59yZSoZ13-2D2FtT40blmbhVrKIukTR0A33hJ&d=DQMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=pVti_MRSCBVkrm5mCqz57Ru8aCvB_LIRvtb9mwDTRsw&s=Z6jPHR4ofbE7mq3oW4haMK11S-ymwc_cMO1hV3VHopI&e=> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ctn-03oct16-en.mp3

On page:

<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#sept>http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#o<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#oct>ct<http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#oct>

The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page:

http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/

Attendees:

ccNSO:
Annebeth Lange, .no
Mirjana Tasic, .rs

GNSO

Carlos Raul Gutierrez, NPOC  (co-Chair)
Alexander Schubert, RySG
Griffin Barnett, IPC
Maxim Alzoba, NTAG (GNSO)
Susan Payne (IPC)

ALAC:

Cheryl Langdon-Orr

GAC:

Mzia Gogilashvili

Additional Members:

Apologies:

Jaap Akkerhuis  ( ISO 3166 Expert)

Jacqueline Morris
Laura Watkins
Joke Braecken (Staff)

ICANN staff:

Bart Boswinkel

Steve Chan

Emily Barabas
Nathalie Peregrine

** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list **

Mailing list archives:http://mm.icann.org/pipermail/ctn-crosscom/

 Wiki page: https://community.icann.org/x/Ux2sAw

Thank you.

Kind regards,

Nathalie

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Adobe Connect chat transcript for Monday 3 October 2016:
Nathalie Peregrine: Dear all, welcome to the CWG on Country and Territory Names as TLDs meeting on the 3rd October 2016
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Nathalie Peregrine: Agenda page: https://community.icann.org/x/_A_4Aw
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Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): Hello All
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bart boswinkel: Hello all
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Mirjana Tasic .rs: Hello all

Nathalie Peregrine: Welcome everyone!
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Nathalie Peregrine: Mzia Gogilashvili has joined the call
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Carlos Raul Gutierrez: pretty small print

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: can you zoon in?

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: zoom in

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: this is much better

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: thanks
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Carlos Raul Gutierrez: It is odd
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Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): .com ?

Annebeth Lange: I agree with you here, Alexander. There are different reasons behind this reservation (for .nic).

Steve Chan: The Reserved Names list is in section 2.2.1.2.1 of the Applicant Guidebook: https://newgtlds.icann.org/en/applicants/agb/evaluation-procedures-04jun12-en.pdf

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: but 3 letter coes are allowed

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: 3 letter words

Annebeth Lange: Today 3-letter words are allowed, but not those on the ISO 3166-1 alpha 3.

Annebeth Lange: If these are opened, .nic will still be reserverd, as I see it.

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: thanks Annebeth: so it means the iso list is reserved

Alexander Schubert: But we could recommend to ICANN to overthink whether ".nic" desprately HAS to be on the protected list. But that is not really our problem I think.

Annebeth Lange: So far it has been reserved, Carlos, but what we are discussing is whether it should be opened in the next round

Alexander Schubert: There is kind of an "overlap" - but no real "conflict" in  my eyes.

Annebeth Lange: Agree, Alexandaer.

Alexander Schubert: :-)

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: we should say that there is no agreement
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Annebeth Lange: Could you scroll the document forward

Annebeth Lange: OK

Steve Chan: Rather than "conflict" or "overlap", it would seem like an exception because of the Reserved Names list.

Annebeth Lange: Yes, Steve
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Carlos Raul Gutierrez: ok

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: ok

Carlos Raul Gutierrez:  i see
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Carlos Raul Gutierrez: @Annebeth it was just to metion one of the positions on the floor

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Agree with Annebeth
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Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): we need some kind of voting (not many people participate today)

Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): at least doodle poll or e-mail

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: #2 in my view is not 100% clear or differentiated from #1

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: Maxim, this is only a progress report

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: recommendations in my view would belong into the second paper

Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): then it could be omited

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: but we can change it

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: I tend to support your postion Maxim on #2

Carlos Raul Gutierrez: either make it clearer (CWG vs. PDP) or out
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Annebeth Lange: So Alexander, do you mean that those working with the subsequent round will respect the AGB on the ISO 3166 and keep it that way? My understanding has been that many wanted to change it, to remove the "protection" and open up everything
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Annebeth Lange: I agree, Alexander, but the problem is that the views in this WG is widely apart, and I cannot see that we manage to deliver a "solution" that we agree on
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Annebeth Lange: I agree with you, Susan, 2-letters are not the difficult ones

Annebeth Lange: So at least we can give that advice to the PDP
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Annebeth Lange: Agree, Bart, therefore the alternative for recommendation 3 takes this into consideration
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Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): non objection whould one of the ways , after all we might write, that there was non-objection or something like ut

Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): it
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Alexander Schubert: Do we expect to be mandated by gnSO and GAC to build another CWG? Or do we agree that if we do not come up with a solution the GNSO will take ownership of the task to develop a solution for Teritory names and ISO3166 Alpha 3 names in the next round?
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Mirjana Tasic .rs: I agree with Annebeth remark that our recommendation for two letter codes should be included in the progress report

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): 2100

Steve Chan: I do not see a conflict with the New gTLD group on the 17th. And this group is scheduled to meet at 2100 UTC.

Steve Chan: The New gTLD PDP WG is scheduled for 0300 on the 17th of Oct

Susan Payne: sounds good

Mirjana Tasic .rs: Bye

Alexander Schubert: bye everbody!

Maxim Alzoba (FAITID): bye all

Cheryl Langdon-Orr (CLO): bye
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