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<p class="MsoPlainText"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"> Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on Monday
</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">30 March 2015 at 19:00 <span style="color:black">UTC at: </span></span><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ccwg-unct-30mar15-en.mp3">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-ccwg-unct-30mar15-en.mp3</a><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Apologies: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Joke Braeken, .eu </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">Adobe Connect chat transcript for </span></u></b><b><u><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Monday 30 March
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Dear all, welcome to the CCWG on Use of Country/ Territory Names as TLDs on the 30th March 2015<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Hi, this call will begin in 25 minutes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):no audio yet anyhow<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):thank you terri<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:audio is ready now<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Grigori Saghyan:Hello!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Hello Grigori<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Everybody<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Hello Maxim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Question<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):waht does FAITID mean?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Faoundation <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Foundation for Assistance for Internet Technologies and Infrastructure Development
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):ok<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):registry for .moscow / .xn--80adxhks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):ok thank you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Lars Hoffmann:hey everybody<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):hello<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Hi<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Good morning everyone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I should say good evening, here it is 9 pm<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:Hi All<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Hi All only in AC for a while while I am also in another call...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:21:00 here as well<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Welcome Colin O'Brien<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:I would like to say a few words about the changed structure since this follows on our last meeting<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:Patagonia is nowehere mentioned<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):ok Heather<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):you are next<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Exactly. Patagonia is not a territory in the ISO 3166 sense<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:I won't interrupt this point so let's finish on ISo 3166 first<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Patagonia is more a region<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Jaap, I agree<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:Apologies for the old hand<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:thank you, Annebeth - glad you are happy with the approach<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Jacqueline Morris has joined<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:I'kk add a definition of the ISO 3166-1 list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):lower left - we might need to chang<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes just muted<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):e all to letter -> all two letter<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:There are multiple ISO lists<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:The list also is the base for IDNs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:It determines what is eligible to goe to the fast track process<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Laura Hutchison:I agree with Annebeth. The status quo is very well establ.ished. Changing this would create confusion for end users.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):countries do not use digits ... but they might use it in the future<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:No, as longs as you follow ISO 3166, digits are not used<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather, let us stay with the 2-letter codes for now<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:There are also 4 letter codes in ISO 3166 (part 3)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I also agree with Laura, we should try to avoid creating confusion<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Terri Agnew:Ron Sherwood has joined<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I agree, our mandate is for 2-letter and 3-letter codes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Agree also specify <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:Agreed. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:That will at least be very controversial, Heather, to go away from the ISO 3166 list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:apologies - that was a bit longwinded!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:I agree, Annebeth, and there may be technical issues<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Remember what the AGB says about c & t names. Today c & t names and the extensions thereof are not allowed as gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:To clarify, my point was that in this discussion we should be considering the specific question: What should we do with 2-letter codes on the ISO 3166-2 list.
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<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:In this context it does not make sense to be "moving away from lists" because the very question implicates the ISO 3166-2 list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:As I see it there are only 3 options:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:1. Status quo (reserve the ISO 3166-2 codes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Exactly Annebeth<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:2. Remove reservation<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:3. ISO 3166-2 is qualified - not automatially reserved but there is some framework<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I agree<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:If we can finish our discussion on 2-letter codes first, that would be good<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Laura Hutchison:I think that the list is from an external source is a good thing<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:As Icann has said before, it is not them decided what is a country or a territory, that is UN<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):reserving 2letter code for eternity is less pain than taking TLD code back ...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I agree with Maxim<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:And it will give new countries established in the future the same system as the old countries have today<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:Since ISO taes codes back, maintaining TLDs for aver means serious conflicts in future<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:This is also bridging the digital divied<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:Maintaining the TLD for eternity or reserving the code for eternity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Laura Hutchison:I would agree. The list is managed by an external body that is better placed than ICANN to decide and manage the list. I would agree with Annebeth and Maxim about protection of codes for future countries.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):and old codes have their own afterlife ... like .su and .uk<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:I thought it wass reserving for eternity - that allows for reuse, just as ISO does<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:since they maintain the list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:That is true, Jacqueline, if a 2-letter code is "retired" and taken back to ISO, it might be given to another country in the future, I think - as a ccTLD.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Can anyone identify additional benefits and burdens of status quo to add to our list?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):reuse of TLD after retirement and re-birth by another country ... cound be an issue of the future<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Good point, Maxim - this should go on the list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):good example<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mirjana Tasic:I thing that Iso 3166 2 letter codes which has been used cannot be reused for some period of time ( I think next 50 years?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Confusion may become less an issue when we have a top-level with 1000 domains<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:True...<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:But still, it is important that users know what is a ccTLD and what is a gTLD<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):only 5 years before the next use<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):if I am not mistaken<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Annebeth - that line is already blurred by generic use of ccTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:If you want to keep the line clear we have to require that ccTLDs are used only within the country or for country purposes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Carlos rightfully points out .co and .nu as examples<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:.md is another<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:But Jaap, the codes represent names of countries and territories. .no is understood as a representation of Norway, for example<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:It would be interesting to do a global survey to see if users at this time differentiate ccTLDs and gTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):we might not ask for restrictions on cctlds ... limiting their ability to use ccTLD the way they want is well outside of our hands<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I know that some countries decide to use their ccTLD more commercially, but still, it is the local internat community that has decided that.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Heather, i drafted a survey idea just after our meeting with the gAC<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Lars Hoffmann:here is a short definiton of the codes. <a href="http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards/country_codes/country_codes_glossary.htm">
http://www.iso.org/iso/home/standards/country_codes/country_codes_glossary.htm</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):lars<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):put it in the text please<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):in the definition lists<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:I mean not a survey sent to governments but to internet users<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):I never send it out<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Lars Hoffmann:@carlos- will do that. <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Carlos - I don't disagree with you<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:I have never said that the codes were used for statistical purposes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Could we add wodring that possible dissolution of ISO 3166 and replacement with the next standard will cause the re-design of the document in a fast manner<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:It was in the early drafts and very quickly yanked<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Given that we have the status quo we have to decide what to do with the status quo - and the status quo involves the ISO list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Laura Hutchison:Theoretical question but does it matter what the list was developed for? Even if it was developed for statistical use, it is a reconised shorthand that links codes to country names?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:You wan to refer to the alpha-2 codes in Section 9 of ISO 3166-1<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Laura Hutchison:so it serves a purpose for the use to define ccTLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:I agree with Laura in terms of our discussion about what t do with status quo<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:If we believe we need to deal with other codes not on ISO list then we have to question the reasoning<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:You mean, Heather, that we should stop the possibility for new countries to have their country code?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):we need to leave a possibility for new codes<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):by all means<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:I agree, Heather<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):I agree - we need to avoid future issues with the removal of 2letter potential TLDs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:We have to deal with the ISO list<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Thank you Carlos - a good summary<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Let's continue to work on the draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:capture the comments from today<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:and keep ging<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:And it is up to the local internet community in each country/territory how they will use their ccTLD, That is not up to us.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Thank you Lars<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Let's revisit the time zones<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Carlos - this has been good, helpful robust discussion - well led<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:It is OK for me, the time of today. We have to take care of those having it too early in the morning<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:Thank you Carlos, for leading the call. Good work!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):thank you all<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jaap Akkerhuis:I need to drop off, Bye!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):some of WG conduct doodle polls for the time of meeting (+-1.5 hours)<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):thank you jaap<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Carlos Raul (GNSO):very good work<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Lars Hoffmann:no problem cheryl.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Thank you everyone!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Susan Payne - Valideus:thanks<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Bye all Thank yu<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Annebeth Lange:THanks and goodbye<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):thanx Everybody!<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Lars Hoffmann:thank you - and have a good day/evening/night/morning everyone<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Ron Sherwood:Thank you all goodbye<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Mirjana Tasic:Bye<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Jacqueline Morris:thanks - bye<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNoSpacing"> Heather Forrest:Enjoy your holiday, Annebeth<o:p></o:p></p>
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