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<p class="MsoPlainText"><font style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> Please find the MP3 recording for the Cross-Community Working Group on Use of Country/Territory Names as TLDs meeting held on </font><font>Monday 04
May 2015</font><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> at 11:00 UTC at:</font><font style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"> </font></font><a href="http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-review-04may15-en.mp3" style="font-size: medium;">http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-review-04may15-en.mp3</a></p>
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<div>Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the CCWG on Use of Country/ Territory Names as TLDs on the 4th May 2015</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:helllo heather and nathalie</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Good morning</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Hello everyone, welcome!</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Hello Olga, Carlos, Nathalie</div>
<div> Bart Boswinkel (staff):Hi All wil be dialing in in a minute</div>
<div> Ron Sherwood:Hello everone</div>
<div> Ron Sherwood:Good morning, Jaap</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:hi there is no audio is that ok? im on mute</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Olga - audio has started but we are waiting for others to join. If you have not heard anything up to now you might have an issue with the sound</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:i heard some voices but no audio now</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Hello everyone, thank you for joining today's meeting of the CWG. We will begin shortly - just waiting for Annebeth Lange, co-chair</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Olga, did you hear people joining then?</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Bart and Joke?</div>
<div> Lars Hoffmann 2:@olga - would you like a dial out?</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:yes i did hear jaap but no audio now</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID):Hello Everyone. Do we have adobe audio?</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:@ olga, thanks for confirming</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Just to be clear - nobody is speaking right now but we will begin very shortly</div>
<div> Mirjana Tasic .rs:Hello everyone</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:@lars in general adobe audio works better than telephone for me, lets see, if there are problems i will let you know and you call me</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Jordi Iparraguirre has jojned the call</div>
<div> Lars Hoffmann 2:@olga - sounds good. thanks olga</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Grigori Saghyan is also on</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:hola jordi,</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine: @ all, disturbance is coming from an AC mic, so please be sure to mute your mic (white arrow to the right of the mic icon at the top of the toolbar)</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Annebeth has joined the call</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Sorry to be late, had some problems with the connection</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):Heather seem to have her micofoon volume to high, causing distortion</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):This seems better</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Jaap, Heather is connected via the phone, not the AC mic, I'm listening on both the bridge nd the AC room and hear no distortion, please join the audio bridge to improve the audio on your end.</div>
<div> Bart Boswinkel (staff):24 April version</div>
<div> Bart Boswinkel (staff):from Heather</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:@ lars i hear nothing please dial out to me 541148262530</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):Audio is better</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:@ Olga, we're dialing out to you now</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):I have a problem with quite some changes</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Jaap, please speak after Bart</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:i hear now thanks</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Bart, I certainly agree with your comments</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Cheryl Langdon-Orr has joined the audio bridge</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC:@lars are there minutes of the meeting once finished?</div>
<div> Lars Hoffmann 2:@olga - there is a recording and the MP3</div>
<div> Lars Hoffmann 2:yes - either you can send me edits - or you can edit with track changes and send me that version, i will then merge versions.</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Thank you Lars</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Thank you Lars</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Bart, that would be very useful.</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Annebeth - we can't hear you</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Annebeth, you have not activated your AC mic</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:I am not on mute</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:please click on the telephone icon at the top of the AC toolbar</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:I am here, but you cannot hear me</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Annebeth is not on the audio bridge, you need to click on the telephne icon to activate your mic. Or please provide your nr and we will dial out to you</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):now</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Lars could we please scroll to definitions section</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):we may want ot move the main defintions to an annex</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):the "geographic" definitions</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):For a srange definiton, see page 15</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):(I was slow as well finding the raise hand book)</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):We are talking about ICANN today</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Our mandate goes beyond codes, as I see it, but country & territories originated from the codes in the ISO list.</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):we dont need to cover all, but certainly we have advanced BEYOND ISO in real life</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):agree with Annebeth</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:What we are discussing is the use of country & territory names (originated from the ISO list) used as TLDs.</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:The AGB excluded c & t names in different versions from this round. So what will happen with these names in the future? My understanding is that our mandate is to try to make it easier to find out what to do in the future.</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:I agree, Annebeth</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Mary Uduma has joined the AC room</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):Annabeth, on the other hand the AGB, allthough prtecting country names, it did expand on geography....</div>
<div> Mary Uduma:Hello All, was in Argentina Embassy for visa application. I am very sorry for joining the call late</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):and thats what we have to deal with</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Yes, Carlos, but we only deal with what is excluded as c & t names. Not all other geographical names that actually were allowed, even if some of them needed support or non-objection.</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):exatly, thats what i mean by boundaries and we have to make clear that we are on a narrower track (WIPO definition maybe) than the AGB, by recognizing the differences on both definitions</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:In my view the WIPO definition is not wide enough</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:Carlos, only AGB Module 2, 2.2.1.4.1 Treatment of Country or Territory Names</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Marketa has joined the AC room</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):lets expand it then</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:I think the confusion is that in the definition in the position paper it says Section 2.2.4.1 - not 2.2.4.1.1</div>
<div> Annebeth Lange, Norid:It is only 2.2.4.1.1 that should be included in our mandate and definition</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Annebeth - I see your hand, please speak after Olga</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Quite right Annebeth</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Good Call thanks everyoine Bye for now</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):6am in Costa Rica now</div>
<div> Carlos Raul (GNSO):dont know if I cna go to bed again</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:reasonable time all round :)</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID) 2:3pm , but public holidays in Moscow</div>
<div> Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Bye talk in 14 days then...</div>
<div> Mirjana Tasic .rs:Bye</div>
<div> Jordi Iparraguirre:thank you. bye</div>
<div> olga cavalli - GAC: thanks!</div>
<div> Maxim Alzoba (FAITID) 2:thanks Everyone</div>
<div> Ron Sherwood:Thank you everyone</div>
<div> Jaap Akkerhuis (SSAC):Bye Bye.</div>
<div> Mary Uduma:Bye All</div>
<div> Heather Forrest:Thanks very much Nathalie, Bart, Lars</div>
<div> Nathalie Peregrine:Good nifght Heather!</div>
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