<div dir="ltr">Carlos,<div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">About your comments sent to the LAC RALO email list, the regional At large from Latin America and the Caribbean, in relation with the CCWG on Country and Territory <span class="">names</span> and the role of the <span class="">GAC</span>.</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">The list is public, this is his comment<font color="#ff0000"> about the <span class="">GAC</span>,</font> which is in Spanish and I translate as well:</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">"<font color="#000000"><span style="white-space:pre-wrap">................</span></font></font></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000">Que el <span class="">GAC</span> ha hecho una contrapropuesta con un perímetro de definiciones mas amplio, y se ha negado consistentemente a participar en este grupo. Tampoco sabemos mucho del grupo del <span class="">GAC</span> sobre este tema, aunque es liderado por Argentina</font></font></i></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i style="white-space:pre-wrap;font-size:small"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font color="#000000">................"</font></font></i></div><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font color="#000000" face="tahoma, sans-serif">The text in red refers to the <span class="">GAC</span> and its translation into English reads as follows:</font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><font color="#ff0000"><b>"that the <span class="">GAC</span> has made another proposal agains it, with a broader definition and that the <span class="">GAC</span> has neglected consistenly its participation in this group. We do not know also much about the <span class="">GAC</span> about this issue, in spite of the fact that is leaded by Argentina."</b></font><br></font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">I want to clarify some points about your affirmation and request clarification from your affirmations:</font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><u>The <span class="">GAC</span> has never neglected its participation in the CCWG</u></b>, I have participated in several calls and F2F meeting, as much as I can, where my participation had always the purpose of updating about the <span class="">GAC</span> WG activities.</font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><u><b>CCWG has always been informed about <span class="">GAC</span> WG activities.</b></u></font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><b><u><span class="">GAC</span> WG outcome documents were made public, also they were open for public comments which were presented during the last ICANN Singapore meeting where you were one of the invited panelist to that open session.</u></b></span><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><u>Argentina has the role of charing that working group, which has also the participation of other 30 countries from all over the world.</u></b></font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><b><u>Could you please clarify this sentence "</u></b></font><b style="color:rgb(255,0,0);font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">We do not know also much about the <span class="">GAC</span> about this issue, in spite of the fact that is leaded by Argentina"?</b></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><b style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif"><font color="#000000" style="background-color:rgb(243,243,243)">The GAC has not made another proposal agains this CCWG:</font><font color="#ff0000"> </font></b><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">The scope of both WG is different. </span><span class="" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">GAC</span><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif">´s WG does not represent a proposal "against" the CCWG on CTnames.</span><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">CCWG on Country and Territory <span class="">Names</span> refers to <span class="">names</span> that are in lists, as clearly stated in the CCWG Charter:</font></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><div style="white-space:normal"><p style="margin:0cm 0cm 13.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;vertical-align:baseline"><i><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB">"The </span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">objective of the CWG-UCTN is to review the current status of representations of country and territory <span class="">names</span>, as they exist under current ICANN policies, guidelines and procedures. In addition, the Group has been asked to provide advice regarding the feasibility of developing a consistent and uniform set of definitions that could be applicable across the respective SO's and AC's for country and territory <span class="">names</span> as top-level domains. Please note that the scope of the WG is strictly limited to:</span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:28.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;vertical-align:baseline"><i><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">·<span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">Representations of <span class="">names</span> of Countries, Territories and their subdivisions</span><span lang="EN-GB"><font color="#ff0000"> listed on or eligible to be listed on the Alpha-2 code International Standard for country codes and codes for their subdivisions (ISO 3166-1), (<span class="">Names</span> of Country and Territory). <b><u>O</u></b></font></span><span lang="EN-GB"><font color="#ff0000"><b><u>ther geographicalindicators, such as regions, are excluded;</u></b></font><font color="#000000"></font></span></font></i></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:28.2pt;line-height:14.4pt;vertical-align:baseline"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><i><span lang="EN-US">·<span style="font-stretch:normal;line-height:normal"> </span></span><span lang="EN-GB" style="color:black">The use of Country and Territory <span class="">names</span> as Top Level Domains. The use of Country and Territory <span class="">names</span> as second or other level is excluded."</span></i></font></p></div></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">The <span class="">GAC</span> WG on GEO <span class="">NAMES</span> was created following the Durban <span class="">GAC</span> Communique, see below link and relevant section:</font></span></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap"><div style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">file:///C:/Users/usuario/Downloads/Final_GAC_Communique_Durban_20130717.pdf<br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">7. <span class="">Geographic</span> <span class="">Names</span> and Community Applications a. <span class="">Geographic</span> <span class="">Names</span> i. The <span class="">GAC</span> recommends that ICANN collaborate with the <span class="">GAC</span> in refining, for future rounds, the Applicant Guidebook with regard to the protection of terms with national, cultural, <span class="">geographic</span> and religious significance, in accordance with the 2007 <span class="">GAC</span> Principles on New gTLDs. </font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:12.8px">It is an internal <span class="">GAC</span> WG which started its work by the Buenos Aires meeting in 2013 and</span></font><span style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px"> focuses its work in those <span class="">geographic</span> and community <span class="">names</span> that are not included in any ISO or United Nation list or other officially recognized lists.</span></div></pre><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif">LAC RALO Public email list can be found in this link.</font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><font face="tahoma, sans-serif"><a href="http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2015-September/029599.html" target="_blank">http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/pipermail/lac-discuss-es/2015-September/029599.html</a></font></div></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">In this sense I kindly ask you to send an email to the LAC RALO list explaining that your affirmations do not correspond with what has been happening and clarifying your reference about Argentina.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Best regards</div><div style="font-size:12.8px">Olga</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-21 8:21 GMT-03:00 Carlos Raúl Gutiérrez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:crg@isoc-cr.org" target="_blank">crg@isoc-cr.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">Dear Olga,<div><br></div><div>I cannot be on the call because i will be traveling today, so here is the background to the conversations with the ALAC and LACRALO leadership, who kindly have been looking for new volunteers for the CWG-UCTN because only Cheryl has been participant from their side.</div><div><br></div><div>I gave some background on the working group, particularly that it developed from a previous working group by the ccNSO, that there existed another working group on geographic names in the GAC</div><div>that the objectives of both the CWG and the GAC group where still based on different assumptions, as GAC had chosen a much wider scope</div><div><br></div><div>I may have also mentioned the letter of the GNASO and ccNSO Chairs wrote to the Chair of the GAC after the Buenos Aires meeting where little if any progress was made in trying to work together.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><div><br><div>
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<br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Sep 19, 2015, at 9:26 AM, Olga Cavalli <<a href="mailto:olgacavalli@gmail.com" target="_blank">olgacavalli@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div dir="ltr">Dear Bart,<div><br></div><div>many thanks for the agenda.</div><div><br></div><div>There is an email sent by one of the co-chairs of this CCWG to the Regional At Large LACRALO email list with comments about the role of the GAC.</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to request clarification about what is stated in that email and make comments about it.</div><div><br></div><div>Best regards</div><div><br></div><div>Olga</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2015-09-19 10:07 GMT-03:00 Bart Boswinkel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bart.boswinkel@icann.org" target="_blank">bart.boswinkel@icann.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>Dear all,</div>
<div>Please find included the draft agenda for our next call Monday 21 September 20.00 UTC.</div>
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<li>Welcome</li><li>Review of amended Strawman Paper</li><li>Report on questionnaires</li><li>Discussion of 3 letter codes status quo</li><li>Progress Report for Dublin</li><li>AOB</li><li>Closure</li></ol>
<div>Also included the updated Strawman option paper.</div>
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<div>Major changes: </div>
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<li>New text on role of the ISO 3166 MA ( as proposed by Jaap)</li><li>Area’s that need to be completed regarding the 2 letter codes.</li><li>Suggestion as discussed previously, to turn definition section into a glossary , that will evolve over time</li></ul>
<div>Kind regards,</div>
<div>Bart</div>
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